LLANDUDNO
CHURCHES TOGETHER
CYTÛN
NEWSLETTERS 19 - 31
September
2001 – September 2004
EGLWYSI
LLANDUDNO GYDA’I GILYDD
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No 31 – September 2004
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – REVD NICK SISSONS
Llythyr y Llywydd – Parch Nick Sissons
JESU, WE LIFT OUR LIGHT TO THEE
FAIRTRADE COALITION for CONWY
COUNTY
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – REVD NICK SISSONS
Llythyr y Llywydd – Parch Nick Sissons
Newsletter No 29 – February 2004
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – REVD JANE ALLEN
DROP-IN
CENTRE FOR THE HOMELESS
GREETINGS
FROM THE REVD ROGER ROBERTS IN TORONTO
Newsletter No 28 – December 2003
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – REVD JANE ALLEN
DENOMINATIONAL
PRESENTATION – THE UNITED REFORMED CHURCH
THE
ENGLISH PRESBYTERIAN AND UNITED REFORM CHURCHES
THE
FELLOWSHIP LUNCH – SUNDAY 19.10.03
Newsletter No 27 – August 2003
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – REVD JANE ALLEN
INDUCTION
OF REVD JANE ALLEN AS OUR PRESIDENT
NEW
HOME – NEW NAME – NEW CHALLENGE
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – REVD ROGER ROBERTS
Llythyr y Llywydd – Parch. Roger Roberts
DENOMINATIONAL
PRESENTATION ON THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD
Cyflwyniad Enwadol ar ran CYNULLIADAU DUW
A
PLEA FOR RESOURCES FOR PAPUA NEW GUINEA
ADNODDAU ar gyfer brodorion PAPUA GINI NEWYDD
Newsletter No 25 – February 2003
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – REVD ROGER ROBERTS
Llythyr y Llywydd – Parch. Roger Roberts
DENOMINATIONAL
PRESENTATION ON THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF WALES
CYFLWYNIAD
ENWADOL ar ran y PRESBYTERIAID yng NGHYMRU
OPEN
DAY AT CANOLFAN IMAM CENTRE
DIWRNOD AGORED
YNG NGHANOLFAN IMAM YNG CONWY
Y Tŷ Cenhadol - Parch Tim
Hall
Newsletter No 24 – November 2002
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – REVD ROGER ROBERTS
Taflen
Newyddion – Cytûn LIandudno
DENOMINATIONAL
PRESENTATION ON METHODISM
Yr Eglwys
Fethodistaidd – Parch. Roger Roberts
Newsletter No 23 – August 2002
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – REVD ROGER ROBERTS
Llythyr y Llywydd – Parch. Roger Roberts
DENOMINATIONAL
PRESENTATION ON ANGLICANISM
ANGLICANIAETH TRWY LYGAD EGLWYSWR
RETIREMENT
OF PARCH/REVD E R LLOYD JONES
Ymddeoliad y Parchedig E R Lloyd Jones
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – FR ANTONY JONES
Llythyr y Llywydd – Tad Antony Jones
EGLWYS UNEDIG GYMRAEG, LLANDUDNO
Newsletter No 21 – February 2002
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – FR ANTONY JONES
Llythyr y Llywydd – Tad Antony Jones
THE
BAPTIST CHURCH – A PRESENTATION
Newsletter No 20 – November 2001
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – A DENOMINATIONAL PRESENTATION
Llythyr y Llywydd – Tad Antony Jones
Newsletter No 19 – September 2001
THE
PRESIDENT WRITES – FR ANTONY JONES
Llythyr y Llywydd – Tad Antony Jones
Most of the extracts reproduced below were
electronically scanned and transcribed from printed copies of the Cytûn
Newsletter. Numerous transcription errors have been corrected, but a
few may
have escaped detection – for which my apologies.
This
Newsletter was edited and produced by Mrs
Barbara Davies
Who
kindly agreed to produce one more issue.
Dear friends,
I am writing just as the athletics get underway at the Olympics. Today
I
watched the shot putt competition in the stadium of ancient Olympia.
Perhaps
like me you have travelled to Greece and visited the ruins of this
ancient
sanctuary, where the tunnel still survives, down which the athletes
would have
come to the roar of the awaiting crowd. Since the Olympics were just as
famous
in New Testament times as now, it is not surprising that writers draw
on the
games when they want to teach about Christian faith. In fact it is this
very
scene that inspired the writer of the letter to the Hebrews to speak of
the
former heroes of God as a great cloud of witnesses cheering us on.
This cloud of witnesses, who by faith have already run the race, are
now on the
heavenly side of reality, delighting in the eternal presence of God,
but also
watching us as we do our best to follow Christ. They are witnesses, the
translation of the Greek word ‘martyr’ - people, who in their own day
gave
their all for God. When the Iraqi cleric Moktadr Al-Sadr recently said
he would
stay in Najaf until the last drop of his blood had been spilt, he
echoed the
commitment of the early Christian martyrs.
Cytûn is founded on the principle that we as Christians of
different
denominations and traditions need one another. We are not asked to go
it alone.
On his recent retirement, Philip Cousins spoke very warmly of the
support and
encouragement he had found in this Cytûn; he had, he said, not
experienced such depth of ecumenical fellowship elsewhere in his
ministry. Not
only are we grateful to have had Philip ministering amongst us for the
past 9
years, but we must also be thankful for everyone else, who has worked
hard and
continues to do so, in order that this Cytûn thrives and its
unity of
spirit is maintained.
But let us always remember that our Cytûn is not only about us
present-day Christians coming together. At our Admin. meetings, or
Councils, at
our Coffee mornings, lunches or teas, at our services or prayer
meetings, even
when there may be just a handful of us, we are always surrounded by
that great
cloud of witnesses. As someone once said, there may be struggling
congregations, weary congregations and suffering congregations, but
there is
never a small congregation. When we gather in the name of Christ, for
whatever
purpose, the room is always packed to overflowing. And from those who
have gone
before us, as well as from those who walk beside us, we draw great
strength and
encouragement. So may we, as fellow
Christians, enter the autumn renewed in our determination to do
together
everything that need not be done apart, and to support one another in
prayer,
word and deed, to our great good and to God’s greater glory.
Nick Sissons
Annwyl Gyfeillion
Ysgrifennaf fel mae’r athletau’n dechrau yn y Gemau Olympaidd. Heddiw gwyliais gystadleuaeth taflu pwysau yn
stadiwm yr hen Olympia. Efallai, fel fi,
eich bod wedi teithio i Wlad Groeg ac wedi ymweld ag adfeilion y
gysegrfan
hynafol hwn, ble mae’r twnnel yn dal i fod, lle byddai’r athletwyr yn
rhedeg
allan i ru'r dorf ddisgwylgar. Gan fod y
Gemau Olympaidd yr un mor enwog yn amseroedd y Testament Newydd â
heddiw, nid
yw’n syndod fod ysgrifenwyr yn tynnu ar y gemau wrth ddysgu am y ffydd
Gristnogol. Yn wir, yr olygfa hynny
ysbrydolodd yr ysgrifennwr i’r Hebreaid i siarad am gyn arwyr Duw fel
cwmwl
enfawr o dystion yn ein hannog ymlaen.
Mae’r cwmwl tystion, sydd
drwy’u ffydd wedi rhedeg yr yrfa’n barod, yn awr ar ochr y nefoedd o
realiti,
yn ymhyfrydu ym mhresenoldeb tragwyddol Duw, ond hefyd yn ein gwylio ni
wrth i
ni wneud ein gorau i ddilyn Crist. Maent
yn dystion, cyfieithiad o’r gair Groegaidd ‘merthyr’ - pobl, a roddodd
eu holl
dros Dduw yn eu dydd. Pan ddywedodd y
clerig o Irac, Miktadr Al-Sadr yn ddiweddar, y byddai’n aros yn Najaf
nes bod y
diferyn olaf o’i waed wedi’i dywallt, roedd yn atsain ymrwymiad
merthyron
cynnar Cristnogaeth.
Seilir CYTUN ar yr egwyddor
ein bod ni, fel Cristnogion o wahanol enwadau a thraddodiadau, angen
ein
gilydd. Ni ofynnir i ni deithio ar ein
pennau’n hunain. Ar ei
ymddeoliad
diweddar, siaradodd Philip Cousins yn gynnes iawn am y gefnogaeth a’r
anogaeth
a gafodd yn y CYTUN hwn. Dywedodd nad
oedd erioed wedi profi cymaint o ddyfnder brawdoliaeth eciwmenaidd yn
unlle
arall yn ei weinidogaeth. Nid yn unig
ydym yn ddiolchgar fod Philip wedi gweinidogaethu yn ein mysg dros y 9
mlynedd
diwethaf, ond rhaid i ni hefyd fod yn ddiolchgar am bawb arall sydd
wedi
gweithio, ac yn dal i wneud felly, er mwyn i’r CYTUN hwn ffynnu a
chynnal ei
ysbryd o undod.
Ond rhaid i ni gofio bob
amser nad Cristnogion heddiw’n unig sy’n dod at ei gilydd yn CYTUN ni. Yn ein cyfarfodydd gweinyddol, neu Gynghorau,
yn ein boreau coffi, cinio neu de, yn ein gwasanaethau neu’n
cyfarfodydd gweddi,
hyd yn oed pan fo dim ond llond dwrn ohonom, rydym pob amser wedi’n
hamgylchynu
gan y cwmwl enfawr o dystion. Fel y
dywedodd rhywun rhyw bryd, gallai cynulleidfaoedd fod mewn
trafferthion, y
cynulleidfaoedd yn flinedig a chynulleidfaoedd yn dioddef, ond does
byth
cynulleidfa fechan. Pan fyddwn yn dod
ynghyd yn enw Crist, at ba ddibenion bynnag, mae’r ystafell bob amser
yn
orlawn. Ac o’r rhai a gerddodd o’n
blaen, yn ogystal â’r rhai sy’n cerdded gyda ni, tynnwn nerth ac
anogaeth
gadarn. Felly, gallwn ni fel cyd
Gristnogion, symud i mewn i’r hydref wedi’n hadnewyddu yn ein
penderfyniad i
wneud popeth gyda’n gilydd nad oes rhaid ei wneud ar wahân, a
chefnogi’n gilydd
mewn gweddi, gair a gweithred er ein lles ni ac er gogoniant i Dduw.
Nick Sissons
The child whose eyes
are full of stars
That burn the hills
of broken cars,
The man whose smile
is like the sun,
Whose only wealth is
everyone -
Jesu, we lift our
light to Thee
To glorify their poverty.
The bones upon the
searing plain
Too weak to reach for
milk or grain;
The hands that cry
from fields of blood
Dying in debris, war
and mud -
Jesu, we lift our
light to Thee
To guide us to
Eternity.
The girl as simple as
the moon
Robbed of her
innocence too soon;
The mothers who are
left to pray
For sons and husbands
locked away -
Jesu, we lift our
light to Thee
To shine in their
captivity.
Revd
Pam Crane
My Church originated as a
Mission of the Old Catholic Church. It
began in Holland, was founded by the Anglo-Saxon missionary Willibrord,
becoming
independent of Rome in the 18th century.
They retained Apostolic Succession and were
able to transmit it to the Old Catholic churches of Germany and
Switzerland and
eventually to the Liberal Catholic Church.
Bishop Mathew who was ordained priest in the Roman
Catholic
Church in 1877, was consecrated by the
Archbishop of Utrecht and held services in and around London in 1908. James Wedgwood was ordained, then
consecrated as the Presiding Bishop in England. The name was changed to
the
Liberal Catholic Church.
Bishop Wedgwood consecrated
Charles Webster Leadbeater as a Bishop.
He had been a priest in the Anglican Church.
Together they revised the Mass and compiled
the Liberal Catholic Liturgy which is based on the Roman Liturgy, and
was proclaimed
by theologians world wide as a magnificent piece of liturgical writing,
and it
is the one which is used in all Liberal Catholic Churches throughout
over forty
countries. It is always used in the
vernacular. The clergy are non-stipendiary and their places of worship
tend to
be ‘house churches’ although there are some purpose built churches
particularly
in Australia, Canada, America and Holland.
The Church aims to combine
the traditional sacramental form of worship with intellectual liberty
and
respect for the individual conscience. It recognises the seven
traditional sacraments
with the Mass as the pivotal centre which is offered to visitors
attending
worship, but the consecrated Host is deeply revered and venerated, and
the
Sanctuary is considered to be the Holy of Holies. In
our Mass we thave
opportunity of offering ourselves spirit, soul and body in loving
devotion to
Almighty God.
The Liberal Catholic church
is a
Bishop Gerard J Crane
The structure of the 15+
ministry is being developed with a tier of eldership being put in place
to
support the young adult leaders and set a secure framework around the
ministry.
The young leaders are - Guy
Cross (Gloddaeth United); Darren Hulme (
The residents of the house
have just changed as Sarah Atkin, who has been here for 4 years goes
for
further ministry training at
The overseas aspect of the
ministry has become so exciting as we encourage young people to gain
experience
overseas.
We are looking forward with
excitement to another group of young people, two of whom were
completely
unchurched a year ago, being baptised in the sea in Llandudno on 5th
September.
Revd Tim Hall
Pocket
Sermon Writers please!
Mr Frank
Collier, a Methodist Local Preacher from
Craigside, and organizer of the Pocket Sermons that appear in the North
Wales
Weekly News, has asked if I might appeal on his behalf for new
contributors. If
anyone would like to know more about what this involves, could they
please
contact Frank on 01492-549033. Thank you - Nick Sissons
The initial launch was held
on Friday 2nd July at St David’s, Craig y Don.
Present were Mrs Betty Williams MP, Janet
Ryder, Denise Idris Jones and Brynle Williams, AM’s.
Also Cllr Gareth Jones for the county, and
Llandudno Mayor Janet Finch-Saunders, also the Bishop of St Asaph. The Penmaenmawr Churches Youth Group sang and
presented a sketch and pupils from Ysgol Llangelynnin, Henryd also sang. There were people there representing
different groups from around the county and these people signed a
declaration
of support to give the county Fairtrade Status.
In order to do this there
are 5 goals to aim for -
-
Fairtrade tea/coffee to be used
at Council meetings - this has been done in Conwy Council and Llandudno
Council.
-
Fairtrade products to be readily
available in shops, cafes and catering establishments - 22 retail
outlets are
needed for Conwy and 11 Cafes
-
Fairtrade products must be used
by a number of workplaces and organisations such as churches and
schools.
-
The Council must attract popular
support for the campaign
A local steering group must
be convened to ensure continued commitment, eg the group present at
this
meeting and any new people also committed.
To become a Fairtrade Church,
the criteria is -
-
to use fairtrade tea and
coffee for all meetings for which you
have responsibility.
-
to move forward on using other
fairtrade products, eg sugar, biscuits, fruit and jam.
-
promote fairtrade during
Fairtrade Fornight, first two weeks in
March, and through any activities possible..
We are fortunate in Conwy
in having two solely Fairtrade outlets in Kingdom Krafts in Llandudno
and Just
Shopping in Conwy. Other retail outlets
include Asda, Tesco, Co-op and Holland & Barrett.
Cafes include Badgers, Ottakers in Llandudno
and Café Contessa in Llanrwst. It is
important that we support these.
Pam Kirkham
Annual
Autumn Lunch
This will be at St David’s
As previously the two
course meal will be provided and served by Clemence of Conwy. Roast Beef is ordered for all, unless a
vegetarian option is ordered from Eileen Duller (878404).
Do arrange for a group of
you to come from
your church, or buy your ticket from your Cytûn representative.
THE RESTAURANT MUST KNOW THE DEFINITE
NUMBER A WEEK BEFORE
THE EVENT, PLEASE.
There will be an opportunity
for you to give towards the Food Voucher Scheme afterwards.
Annual
Cytûn Conference
This will be held at Eglwys
Unedig Gymraig SEILO on Gloddaeth Avenue on Thursday 11TH
November at
The title is -
‘STARTING FROM SOMEWHERE
The speaker will be -
the Revd Barbara Glasson
& The Bread Community from the
This will prove an
interesting and helpful evening certainly so do come along and bring
some
friends.
Everybody is Welcome.
Coffee and Biscuits will be
served after the talk.
Newsletters
19 – 30 were all edited and
produced by Mrs Barbara Davies
who has
retired with this issue.
Last month many of you, who are reading this
newsletter,
shared in a beautiful ecumenical service in St David’s
At the outset of my year as President, I would like to share some
stories from
my ecumenical journey so far. I was baptized as an infant in Park Rd.
Methodist
church in Rushden, Northants, in 1962. The church celebrates its
centenary next
year and the first person baptized there was H.E.Bates, author of ‘The
Darling
buds of May’ and other novels. Our Methodist church was just 200 yards
down the
road from the Baptist church and our youth clubs happily shared many
things
together - in my case, sport and girlfriends jump most readily to mind.
At
University, at Oxford, I worshipped at Wesley Memorial church, but the
college
chapel system introduced me to the world of High Anglicanism; I still
fondly
recall the heavy linen napkins and warm white rolls that followed
Sunday
morning Eucharist and also talking philosophy with David Brown, the
Chaplain in
John Henry Newman’s old rooms. He thought I might make a good
philosopher! He
now makes a good Professor of theology at
I was trained in
When I left
These are some parts of my story. I trust that over the next 12 months
I shall
be able to share with you, and you with me
and each
other, many other stories about our faith journeys. Ronald Reagan, who
died at
the start of June, was by all accounts a U.S. President not much
interested in
facts and figures, but very much interested in telling stories, and
this was
one of his great charms and something which clearly helped people relax
in his
company and learn to trust him. As people remembered him in the media
after his
death, I heard about an incident following his attempted assassination.
He was
brought to hospital, aware that he had been shot in the lung; as he was
being
taken to the operating theatre he looked up, smiled at the doctors and
nurses
and quipped ‘I hope you’re Republicans.’ The surgeon looked back at him
and
replied ‘Today we are all Republicans.’ I hope that by being part of
CYTUN we
will discover, that not only during the difficult times that may lie
ahead for
us, but also in the times of joy and celebration, we too have something
fundamental that binds us all together. Today and every day we are all
Christians, living by the grace of God and in the power of the Spirit,
so let
us always welcome one another as God in Christ has welcomed each of us.
Amen. Nick
Fis diwethaf bu llawer
ohonoch sy’n darllen y cylchlythyr hwn yn cymryd
rhan yn y gwasanaeth eciwmenaidd hyfryd yn Eglwys Fethodistaidd Dewi
Sant yng
Nghraig-y-Don. Roedd
yn hyfryd, nid oherwydd ysblander tu
fewn Dewi Sant, nac oherwydd cadwyn ysblennydd y Llywydd, a oedd i’w
gweld ar
un o’i ymddangosiadau prin, nac hyd yn oed oherwydd fy siwt newydd i. Roedd yn hyfryd oherwydd, dim ond ychydig o
ddyddiau cyn y Sulgwyn, bod yr Ysbryd Glân wedi’n huno mor amlwg, pobl
Dduw ar
draws y sbectrwm – oed, diwylliant, enwad a barn – i addoli Duw yn yr
ysbryd ac
mewn gwirionedd. Teimlais ei bod yn
fraint i fod yno, fel gobeithio y gwnaethoch chi, os oeddech yn bresennol, ac yn
fraint i allu dathlu arwyddion fod teyrnas Dduw yn sylfaen gwaith ac
addoliad
CYTUN. Credaf na
ddylem byth gymryd yn ganiataol y gallu a’r cyfle hwn i ddod ynghyd
mewn
tangnefedd a chytgord. Nid yw, wedi’r
cwbl, yn beth naturiol i ni bobl ddynol i’w wneud, fel mae 60fed pen‑blwydd D-day
diweddar
yn ein hatgoffa mor ingol. Mae’n llwybr
aberthol
a drudfawr ond hefyd yn un gweledigaethol.
Ar
ddechrau
fy mlwyddyn fel Llywydd, hoffwn rannu
rhywfaint o
hanes fy nhaith eciwmenaidd hyd yn hyn.
Cefais fy medyddio yn faban yn
eglwys
Derbyniais
hyfforddiant yng Nghaergrawnt yn Ffederasiwn y Colegau Diwinyddol a oedd yn cynnwys pedwar sefydliad: dau
Anglicanaidd, un
Eglwysi Diwygiedig Unedig ac un Methodistaidd, a oedd yr adeg hynny, ac
yn dal
i dyfu’n nes at eu gilydd. Mae’n bleser
gweld fod y Ffederasiwn wedi ymestyn, ers fy
nyddiau
i, i gynnwys yr Eglwys Gatholig a bod fy ngholeg i yn cynnwys canolfan
astudiaeth Uniongred erbyn hyn yn ogystal â Chanolfan ar gyfer
Cysylltiadau
Iddewig Cristnogol.
Gadewais
Gaergrawnt ym 1992 a’m galwad cyntaf, fel mae
Methodistiaid yn ei galw, oedd ym Mhrifysgol Southampton a Sefydliad
Addysg
Uwch Southampton fel caplan llawn amser yr Eglwysi Rhyddion. Cefais fy nhalu ar
y
cyd gan y Bedyddwyr, yr Eglwysi Diwygiedig Unedol a’r Methodistiaid. Roedd raid i mi gyfiawnhau fy
swydd, a’r gost ohoni, yn rheolaidd i arweinwyr rhanbarthol y tri enwad
– dyna
ymarfer eciwmenaidd! Rhennais y Caplandy
gyda chydweithwyr llawn amser yr Eglwys Anglicanaidd a’r Eglwys
Gatholig: gyda’r Tad Alan Griffiths a
gyfarchodd fi
gyntaf yn ei gasog gyda’r geiriau sych – ie hen wr mewn drag – a’r
Parchedig
Nigel Coates, Rheithor Freemantle yn Southampton erbyn hyn, a oedd yn
bresennol
yn fy ordeiniad ddeng mlynedd yn ôl i’r mis hwn, fel fy ngweinidog
cefnogol, ac
sy’n aros yn ffrind agos. Cefais lawer
o’m profiadau eciwmenaidd mwyaf gwefreiddiol yn y swydd honno. Rwy’n cofio’n gynnes iawn y Chwaer Mary a’r
caplaniaid eraill yn Undeb La Sainte yn y dref, sydd wedi mynd erbyn
hyn
gwaethaf modd, a’u hoffter rhyfedd am win coch cadarn gyda chiniawau’r
caplaniaid. Cofiaf yr Athro Mary Grey
a’i chwilio di‑ildio am gyfiawnder a
heddwch. Yna, y
Parchedig Katie Young a rannodd y caplandy gyda mi yn Sefydliad Addysg
Uwch
Ar ôl gadael
Dyma
rywfaint o’m hanes. Dros
y 12 mis nesaf, gobeithio y gallaf rannu gyda chi a chithau gyda minnau
a
chyda’ch gilydd, sawl hanes ynghylch ein teithiau yn y ffydd. Mae’n debyg nad
oedd
gan Arlywydd
Last
year a
number of us from the English Presbyterian (as it was then) and
Emmanuel
Christian Centre erected a marquee on Maesdu field.. Although it was all done at short notice the
aim was to build bridges into the community through games and
activities for
children during the day and family centred events in the evening. In between we took the opportunity to share
our faith through puppets, the work of the Beach Mission Team and
private
conversations. We managed to attract
about 50 young people but failed miserably with the adults.
It
wasn’t
without its problems - we called the police ten times in three days,
mainly
when the safety of the tent was at risk or children were running round
the roof
of the tent.
Undeterred,
we are planning a similar meeting from 16-21 August 2004.
Hopefully we will be better organised this
year but any offers of help, if only to be another pair of eyes and
ears, would
be greatly appreciated.
We
are also
entering into discussions with Spurgeon’s with a view to appointing a
Christian
person to link the churches with the work in the community. If any church would like to be part of this
programme I would be pleased to hear from them.
Neil Kirkham
Rev
Tim
Hall reported to the May Annual General Meeting via the Revd Peter
Marshall,
confirming that Sarah is leaving in August after 4 years.
The
work
among young people is most
exciting, as on a Sunday evening at
There
is a
‘Let’s Go’ week in August at St David’s College Gloddaeth Hall with
activities
for11-14 year olds from 12 noon - 4 pm daily.
The churches have been given posters and information about this,
the
charge is £4 per session and as there are limited places booking is
essential -
contact Peter Marshall (revmarsh@tiscali.co.uk)
or ring 547352.
Grateful
thanks are extended to Charles Lonsdale who has been our excellent
Treasurer
for some years, and we extend our thanks and good wishes to Margaret Baker
who is our new
Treasurer; also to Pat Hillman who is
our new Press and Publicity officer on the retirement of Barbara Davies.
You
will
have read the letter from our new President the Revd Nick Sissons who
was
inducted at St David’s Church in May and to whom our good wishes are
extended
for his year in office, along with the Revd Pam Wright as Vice
President. Much gratitude and thanks are
owed to the
Revd Jane Allen the retiring President who has guided us through the
previous
year in joyful confidence and with great grace.
We
are most
pleased to welcome three ex- presidents who have become life members,
namely
Mrs Betty Mills, Y Parch E R Lloyd Jones and Y Parch Lord Roberts of
Llandudno. They were warmly welcomed
into Life Membership of Cytûn during the Induction Service and were
each handed
an illuminated certificate recording this.
In the past certificates had not been presented to people
conferred with
Life Membership of Cytûn, after some years of service to ecumenism in
this
town, and it was felt that this should be put right on this occasion,
so
illuminated certificates were presented or sent to Mrs Geraldine
Meikle, Mrs
Anne Neville, Mrs Myra Owen, Mrs Effie Rowlands, Mrs Mona Savage, and
Mrs Irene
Heywood.
In
our
churches we should pray for those in office, and all those who work
hard to
further the work of Cytûn in Llandudno, especially any who are in
special need,
particularly thinking
of Aled Morgan at this time, and also
remembering that Prayers are held
on the Second Saturday of each month from 7 am to 8 am at Emmanuel
Christian
Centre.
July
27th
- Cytûn Council Meeting at
Aug
26th
- Christian Aid Charity Market at Holy Trinity Church
Some of the
most poignant words in the Old Testament, for me, are found in chapter
3 of 1
Samuel -"there was no vision in the land". Visions, dreams, are
essential in life, and its interesting to learn that modern business
practice
appreciates this fact. Companies spend a lot of time nowadays in
writing a
"mission statement" which sets out the company's vision for
itself. I think those words
"mission statement" have quite a biblical ring to them, and I think
they are words which visionaries as far apart in time as Isaiah and
John the
Divine, the author of Revelation, would both understand. There had to
be a
vision here in Llandudno of churches in partnership for CYTÛN ever to
get off the
ground, and I think across the years that vision of churches working
together
has held fast, and indeed grown in breadth and practice.
I don't
think it would be an overstatement, either, to say that one of the
great
problems with our society today is that there seems to be very little
vision,
if any at all, of the sort of world we want to pass on to the next
generation.
The great reformers of their day had what could be described as
impossible,
unrealistic visions - the outlawing of slavery, children freed from the
horrors
of the cotton mills or the
mines,
prisoners treated humanely, freedom from fear of old age or iII-health,
every
child given the right to an education. And yet those impossible visions
became
a reality because the people who had them really believed in them.
So It's been
a real bonus for me as President of CYTÛN to share in and be part of
the vision
which so many people in CYTÛN hold for our future as Christians working
together
in
partnership with one another. And as this will be the last time I will
be
writing to you as President, I would like to say what a privilege and
joy this
year has been, and to thank you all for your support, kindness,
friendship, and
above all, for shared visions. There has been the new vision and courage
with has led
to churches moving premises, or joining together across denominations,
supported I know by much prayer from CYTÛN members. There has been a
sustained
vision and understanding of the need to pray together on a regular
basis at the
monthly early morning Saturday prayers, or on special occasions like
the Peace
Vigil - which, incidentally, grew out of the vision of a lay Christian.
We share in
a world-wide vision of the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity each year
- and
couldn't you just sense the way the momentum of that week was
maintained in the
joy of our joint worship in January? There is, I feel, a growing vision
of the
importance of breaking bread together, simply enjoying one another's
company,
getting to know one another. There is a developing vision of what we
must do to
practise Christ's commandment of visible and loving service as we try
to offer
practical support to the homeless or hungry or disadvantaged. There is
a daring
vision of being visible outside our church buildings - as has happened
over the
past few years through the Good Friday Procession of Witness, outdoor
service
and Cross Vigil. Part of this daring vision, too, is the recently
started ASDA
Chaplaincy.
"I saw
a new heaven and a new earth, " writes John the Divine, and he goes on
to
explain that the new Jerusalem he envisions will be a place where God
will
dwell with us, where together we will be his kingdom. That is, surely,
our
ultimate vision, which we can strive to achieve as we work in
partnership with
each other, and with our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
So, let us
go forth in peace; in the Name of Christ. Amen.
Awn ymaith
mewn tangnefedd; yn Enw Crist. Amen.
JANE
At the last
Cytûn Council Meeting is was agreed that a working group should be
formed to
explore the possibility of opening a drop-in centre fot the homeless
somewhere
in the centre ofLlandudno. Ideally the working group will include one
lay
person from each Church denomination. If you feel that this is a form
of
ministry for which you have a passion, - please let your Cytûn rep
know. Please
remember this work in your prayers, as Cytûn seeks to witness to the
love of
Christ through outreach in the community in which we live.
JANET
I understand
that there are gales and floods in North Wales - sympathetic because we
have
snow, snow and more snow! Temperature has been as low in Toronto as
minus 36 C.
But I'm still impressed by Canada and Toronto - in spite of the severe
winters.
We have the most comfortable multi-ethnic community that I have ever
experienced - they are all regarded as equal citizens and all play
their part
in the community. I have yet to hear of intolerance and discrimination.
There are
between 45,000 and 55,000 people of Welsh background here and part of
my job is
to make folk aware of our Welsh community, Church, Cultural and
Sporting
Societies. We are planning a St David's Day presentation - stall etc in
the
Eaton Centre and as wide a display of Welsh Flags as possible. More of
that
later. If you know ofWelsh folk in the Toronto area could you ask them
to
contact me please or let me have contact details for them ?
I'm here
until April 12th - six months well spent.
Best wishes,
Roger R
Tim Hall
reported on the growing involvement within secondary schools of
Christian
pupils leading a Christian group, and he asked us to pray for the
witness of
these young people in schools and colleges. Tim Hall went on to say,
'If you
have pupils in your church who are in secondary schools or college in
North
Wales, please put them in touch with us at Mission House so we can
encourage
them and introduce them to each other'
He then turned to the 18-30 age group and explained that the
vision is
to establish a Christian Union on the University model where young
people come
for an hour a week for Bible teaching.'
Tim also
hoped that young people could go and spend some time in Uganda, helping
at the
Youth Training Centre there. He should be contacted if there are any
young
people who would like this opportunity.
Sarah Atkin
has lived in the house for almost 4 years and she is almost certainly
going to
Australia in September, and her work at Mission House has ended.
Tim told us
that The Penrhynside Village Youth Club has been developed by Sarah
over the
last few years and around 40 young people between the ages of 8-16 come
regularly. This is a fantastic service to the village and community and
a real
opportunity to get to know the young people who would never come to a
church.
Again Tim stressed that Mission House needed people to come forward who
felt
that they could work with young people of this age.
Finally, Tim
told us about a Christian Holiday Programme for 11 to 14 year olds
which will
take place for one week in August (probably the week beginning 16th) at
St
David's College who are offering the use of their facilities for this
week. Do
contact him for details.
‘Thank you
all so much for your prayer and support for this ministry among our
young
people.’
Tim Hall
The Admin
Committee has explored many avenues to try and find someone who is
willing to
translate our Newsletter on a regular basis and can produce this on
disc, but
sadly to date with no success. The Committee is most anxious to produce
our
Newsletter in Welsh and English, so if you have any suggestions or
contacts,
please could you get in touch with Barbara Davies, our Publicity
Officers, on
875778, or Patrick Rohde, our Secretary, on 878504, who will gladly
follow up
on any leads. To our Welsh speakers, please accept our sincere
apologies for a
monolingual Newsletter on this occasion. Admin Committee.
ROSEMARY WEAVER, SECRETARY, wishes to
report from the
1.
A SECRETARY is required who will inform
churches of forthcoming events.
2.
FORTHCOMING EVENTS - 4th March Coffee
Morning at Eglwys Unedig Gymraeg (Seilo)
10.30 - 12 noon
8th July Tea at Holy
Trinity 2 - 4.30 pm This is an inter-church event so
offers of help and gifts of cake would be appreciated. Contact Mrs
Hazel Elias
(581375)
Advance Notice - A
SONGS OF PRAISE will be held at 3 pm at Holy Trinity
later in the year.
Support from
churches not yet involved will be greatly appreciated.
MARCH 3
Christian Aid/Fair Trade Coffee Morning from 10 am to noon at St
David's Craig
y Don
MARCH 5
WOMEN'S WORLD
afternoon
and at the English Baptist Church, West Shore in the evening; Welsh
Service at
2.15 pm at Bethania, Craig y Don. See notices.
MARCH 10
Showing of the film 'Gone with the Wind' at St David's Craig y Don for
Fair
Trade/Christian Aid at 2 pm until about 6 pm.
MARCH 13
-Cytûn Prayers for Llandudno are held on the SECOND SATURDAY of each
month from
7 am to 8 am at EMMANUEL CHRISTIAN CENTRE.
MARCH 25 -
Regional Cytûn Meeting in Bangor APRIL 9th GOOD FRIDAY -
APRIL 20 -
LLANDUDNO Cytûn Council Meeting at Stella Maris at 7 PM
JUNE 24
AFTERNOON TEA for CHRISTIAN AID
JULY 26 -
CHARITY MARKET
JULY 27 -
HOLY TRINITY
Preparations
are underway to update our Cytûn Brochure ready for distribution to the
hotels
and public buildings before Easter. Help would be much appreciated in
delivering these as usual, when they reach the different churches. Patrick
Rohde, Secretary
I'm not quite sure whether this should be a Christmas or New Year letter, so perhaps I'd better make it a bit of both!
Probably most of you share my sense of frustration that Christmas seems increasingly to be overtaken by glitz rather than God-with-us, by conspicuous consumption rather than the Christ-child, and by rush rather than by reverence. Yet, in spite of all the commercialism it is still a time of wonder and rejoicing as we celebrate the eternal mystery of the word becoming flesh and dwelling with us. I expect we all have a favourite carol, and Christmas becomes a new experience for me every year when I hear the first line of "Once in Royal David's city". That carol reminds me of the fact that this was a once-and-for-all event in every sense, because God chose that one moment in our human history for the incarnation of his love, and did that for all ofus, every man, woman and child. And if we can just keep that fact to the forefront, then everything else falls into place and the glitz and conspicuous consumption and rush become less of a distraction. So let's become as little children and look with fresh eyes at the stable and the manger and the star, and kneel with the shepherds and kings before the breathtaking humility of that very special Child.
May I also commend to you two CYTÛN events which
bracket
Christmas, as it were. The first is the Advent In-Church Pilgrimage
when we
will be highlighting the Trade Justice campaign. As already advised to
Council
members, this will take place on December 14 at
New Year is always, for me, a time of some nostalgia as well as hopeful anticipation for what the next twelve months will bring. What will your hopes, wishes and dreams be for the New Year, I wonder? I'm sure we will all be praying and longing for a world of peace and justice, freedom from hunger and violence for all those dark places where life is dangerous and so difficult for so many. As well as my wishes and prayers for the world, here are a few of my hopes for CYTÛN here in Llandudno. I hope we will be able to find the means to fund our Food Voucher scheme, to start a Chaplaincy at ASDA, to enjoy prayerful fellowship and worship at one another's churches during the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity and beyond, to find new ways together of witnessing to our Lord Jesus Christ which will bring nearer the coming ofhis kingdom. May God the Father bless and keep US, may God the Son through his Cradle and Cross bring us closer to the Father, may God the Spirit strengthen us in love and faith. Every good wish to you and yours for a Joyful Christmas and a Peace-filled New Year. Na dolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda. JANE
By the Revd Kieth Jones
The URC came into existence in 1972 when the
Congregational
Church in
members still reflect that depth of commitment and the "Church Meeting" still takes precedence in arranging the affairs of the local church.
Presbyterianism had existed as a denomination in
Keith Jones, as a former Congregationalist, would be the first to say that the URC strengthened by the order and structure in church government which came in via Presbyterianism. The new church also received with gratitude from Presbyterians the gift of Eldership through which chosen local church members are ordained in spiritual leadership at the local level and share with ministers the pastoral care and oversight of the local church.
In 1981 the Reformed Churches of Christ, a small British denomination, joined the URC bringing with them the doctrine of Believers' Baptism which was incorporated into the URC so that parents if they wish could have their children dedicated and not baptised as infants; so that when older the children can decide for themselves.
In April 2000 the Congregational Union of Scotland came into the URC so the Ecumenical Pilgrimage continues.
The URC stands in the historic Reformed tradition, whose members make up the largest single strand in Protestantism – with more than 70 million members worldwide. Keith Jones.
These two churches of Llandudno are coming
together in 2004,
and the Cytûn President, The Revd Jane Allen, extends good wishes for
their
united future from all Cytûn. The service to mark their coming together
will be
held on Saturday 24th January starting in
On a lovely day, following morning services, about 100 people from the various churches met at St David's, Craig y don for Sunday Lunch! Our fellowship began as we met each other in the Lounge and continued over a most enjoyable lunch, prepared and served so thoughtfully and pleasantly by Clemence of Conwy. As newcomers to the area, it was good to meet people from the different churches, and we look forward to future Cytûn events. Thank you to all who arranged this.
Pauline and Jack Waddington.
This meets regularly and brings together key
people from
agencies such as Conwy Council Housing and Benefits, Shelter, housing
associations, Mostyn Estates,
some positive action.
At each
meeting one agency gives a brief presentation on their work, and so far
we have
heard from the One Stop Shop in
Twelve months ago, when I first announced my
intention of
making this trek, one of my neighbours, a member at Bethania lent me a
prayer
card. It read, "Lord help me to remember
that
nothing will happen today that you and I cannot manage together." Well
I
did it; we all did it, our group of 16 diverse people from
Great Wall from previously seen film and photographs and we had not reckoned on the 90% humidity, the fog and rain-
generated mud, but it was an incredibly wonderful experience, and we did it! I have todate sent over £3,500 for the work of ActionAid. I am absolutely amazed at the generosity and support I have encountered, and the prayer with which I have been upheld. Thank you all so much. The group raised £28,000. Arline Griffiths.
Sister Jennifer has been honoured for ‘exceptional service to the church’. She was presented with the Papal Award
Pro Ecclesia et
Pontifice
by the Bishop Edwin Regan, Bishop of Wrexham at a special service in
Wrexham
Cathedral. Celebrations in the parish were held on November 25th with a
Concelebrated Votive Mass of Our Lady with Bishop Edwin presiding in
the
ADVENT IN-CHURCH PILGRIMAGE – a joint
Service with
CAFOD on
in HOLY TRINI'IY CHURCH
– DO
A CHRISTMAS MEDITATION on
led by Father Antony
Jones – DO
GIVE YOUR SUPPORT TO THIS SERVICE WHICH WILL BE A THOUGHTFUL CONT1NUATION OF OUR CHRISTMAS
CELEBRATIONS.
WEEK OF PRAYER FOR CHRISTIAN UNITY – Starting on SUNDAY l8th JANUARY 2004
Days, places and times of the daily services as follows:-
SUNDAY l8th JANUARY at
MONDAY 19th JANUARY at 10.30 am
at
OUR LADY
TUESDAY 20th JANUARY at 10.30 am
at
ST DAVID'S,
WEDNESDAY 21st JANUARY at 10.30 am at ST DAVID'S
, CRAIG Y
THURSDAY 22nd JANUARY at 10.30 am
at the
FRIDAY 23rd JANUARY at 10.30 am at the ENGLISH PRESBYTERIAN/URC
SATURDAY 24th JANUARY at 10.30 am at EMMANUEL
Thanks to the generosity of friends we have been able to send off by sea 15 parcels of theological books and journals
to the Saimon Gaius Library at George Brown Pastors' College, Rabaul. They will be much appreciated.
Patrick and Barbara Rohde.
Being part of a link in the chain of people who have had the privilege of serving as President of Cytûn here in Llandudno
is a somewhat humbling experience, especially when you look back at past presidents and see all that they achieved when
they were in office. Our immediate past president, Roger Roberts, who has done the job several times over many years
tells me he has seen a great sense of fellowship and a real coming together develop over those years. I very much hope we can continue to grow in the spirit and service of Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. As I said at the first meeting I chaired in July, I see this happening through praying together, praising together, preparing together, playing together and practising service together So it was good to move those aims and objectives forward as we did at that meeting by arranging events and putting dates into diaries. You 'll find those events and dates listed elsewhere in this Newsletter.
As I start my year as President, I know how much I will need the support of you all -both Ministers, laity, and the Admin
Committee, especially the
support of your
prayers. And speaking of prayers, we hope to have our Prayer
Vigil for
Peace on Friday, September 19 from
Finally, may I share with you a prayer I use often, and one which seems particularly appropriate to the ongoing work of
CYTÛN:
Lead us, Lord, with thy most
gracious favour, and further us
with thy continual help, that in
all our works, begun,
continued, and ended in thee, we may
glorify thy holy Name,
through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen
May we walk together in the peace of Christ, JANE.
Cytûn Llandudno has been very well served over the years in its succession of Presidents. Each one has brought personal
strengths and concerns to the task. And Jane will be no exception in her concern for people, and young people, and for the Christian Church in this modern society. Jane chose to have her Induction Service at St Tudno's Church on the Orme, which recognises a Christian presence in the area over many generations, so that the building itself has an aura of peaceful calm even standing as it does in what can be a very windswept position.
One is conscious of an atmosphere of Christian worship as soon as one enters and regards its simple beauty. The ceremony of Rev Roger Roberts passing on the 'succession' to Jane was full of sincere Christian hope and faith. We are in good hands for another year, for it is God's presence and love which leads our faith and hope. Faith provided plentiful refreshments and a joyful conclusion as we shared wine, fruit juice, food and conversation. Welcome Revd Jane Allen as our President..
Barbara Davies.
Easter Day 2003 was the first day of public
participation in
worship at the new home of
the Church of Our
Our trustees have allowed us to change our name
from
Well the big news is that it is on! The World
Health
Organisation lifted the ban on travel to
Young People's Ministry is very concerned about the unsupervised use of chatrooms on the internet and the clear dangers this affords to young people. As the church we must recognise the need for twin strategies of education and providing a safer alternative. Currently Mission House is in discussions with specialists at the forefront of this technology and of pioneering software. We are looking into the feasibility of setting up chatrooms and gamesrooms which are the best the 'net' can provide, but with - supervision and 'registration'. ..
There are 3 essential areas that senior generations can help with -
1) Supervision - one idea would be to have a rota of say 40 adults who could do 2 x 1 hour supervision slots a week in the
chat areas. These people would need to be 'cleared.'
2) Help with funding - Initially we are looking at £500 to put together a pilot webpage which we could then 'trawl' around
the big Christian youth
ministries
in the
terms of music, video and games.
3) Prayer - this is a major move, and the
whole
vision will be written up and available, but we are so moved that
something has
to be done that we cannot rest until we have explored the issues and
tested
whether God is calling us into this. TIM
A couple of years ago the "facevalues" campaign was launched with the aim of restoring basic Christian values in society. One of the latest developments initiates the use of prayer cards. The scheme operates by encouraging local church members to deliver prayer postcards to each house, either personally or by posting.
The card explains that, "Christians from local churches are providing a prayer request service for this area. If you would
like people from a nearby church to pray about something or someone you are concerned about, then fill in the prayer
request form and return it to a Prayer Point near you. You can give as little or as much information as you want. You may
just want to give a first name. No-one will call by phone or in person."
Details of the nearest prayer point are given on the card and they are easily recognisable from a distinctive poster in the
window. It would be
good to have a
network of prayer points across the town and to deliver a card to each
house.
Cards and posters are fairly cheap to buy from
We have been presented with seventeen boxes of theological books from the recently closed Wrexham Resource Centre. News of this very generous gIft has already been passed on to the Pastors' College. Patrick & Barbara Rohde.
Dear
Fellow Christian,
More
than anything else the conflict in
I
know how relieved we are that the fighting appears to have ended
although there
is a massive task to try to ensure real peace and establish a just
society in
I was, myself, deeply sad that the
As
Cytûn we held a remarkable candlelit vigil in Holy Trinity, another
smaller
vigil and during the conflict a good number met on four Sunday evenings
at the
Llandudno Town Cenotaph. It was a time for prayer and meditation.
We
have become a real "out door" organisation! On
Good Friday about 300 of us walked in
procession from the Town Hall to the grounds of
There
are so many good things happening within the Christian Community in
Llandudno.
Never before have I felt so much warmth and
friendship. We appear to be, through grace, growing in so many ways.
Changes
during the past month or so include the move of
My
year as President of Cytûn is nearing its end. Thanks to all who have
given
their support during the year, especially to the marvellous team of
officers My very best wishes go to the Rev
Jane Allen who will, I
know, be a first class President.
With
love and prayers,
Roger.
Yr
hyn fu'n pwyso ar ein meddyliau yn fwy na
dim arall
yw'r sefyllfa yn
Ydym
yn falch eithriadol i'r brwydro, yn ol pob golwg, fod drosodd ond mae tasg aruthrol i sicrhau heddwch ac i sefydlu
cymdeithas
gyfiawn yn
Yn
bersonol roeddwn yn drist nad drwy'r
Cenhedloedd
Unedig death ateb i'r problemau. Y mudiad hwn, er mor
amherffaith, yw'r fan lle mae l92 o wledydd – o
Fel
Cytûn cynhaliwyd gwylnos arbennig iawn yng ngolau'r ganwyll yn
Eglwys y Drindod a gwylnos lai wedyn a phedwar gwasanaeth i weddio a
myfyrio ar
nosweithiau Sul wrth Gofeb y Dref.
Daethom
fel Cytûn yn gymdeithas "awyr ogored" ! Dydd Gwner y Groglith gorymdeithiodd 300 ohonom o Neuadd
y Dref i
erddi Eglwys y Drindod lie cynhaliwd gwasanaeth byr. Ymunodd
Ilawer o
ymwelwyr
a
ni i gofio Croeshoeliad Crist. Gwenodd yr haul
arnom
ac roedd ymdeimlad o addoliad ac undeb.
Mae
cymaint o bethau da yn digwydd oddimwen i'r Gymdeithas Gristnogol
yma yn Llandudno. Ni theimlais erioed cymaint o gyfeillgarwch a
chynhesrwydd. Edrychwn fel petaem, trwy
ras, yn tyfu
mewn Ilawer ffordd.
Bu
symudiadau arbennig yn ystod y mis. Aeth Zion, Bedyddwyr
Saesneg, o Graig y Don i Eglwys Ein Gwaredwr. Deallwn
bod
Fred Halstead a'r gynulleidfa yn cartrefu'n dda. Soniwyd
yn barod i'r Eglwys yng Nghymru uno yn Eglwys y Drindod ac mae'r
adroddiadau yn
codi'n calon. Mae'r Eglwys Unedig Gymraeg
ar ol trafod
Ilawn wedi pleidleisio i sefydlu yn Seilo. Pan cwblheir
y newidiadau a'r gwellianau bydd gennym gartref hyfryd. A oes eraill yn
symud ?
Mae
fy mlwyddyn fel Llywydd Cytûn yn dirwyn i
ben. Diolch
am bob cefnogaeth yn ystod fy nhymor, yn
arbennig i
gyd-swyddogion bendigedig. Dymunaf yn dda i fy
olynydd, y Parch Jane Allen a sy'n sicr o fod yn Llywydd rhagorol.
Gyda
chariad a gweddiau,
Roger.
The
Assemblies of God is part of the world wide Pentecostal movement so
called
because it began on the Jewish day of Pentecost. It was the start of
the 6th
dispensation commonly known as the "dispensation of the spirit"
accepted as "the birth of the church" celebrated at our Whitsuntide.
During
what is known as "the dark ages" the experience of Pentecost almost
faded out but God kept a faithful remnant (as he has always done with
Israel)
who kept the flame of the spirit burning through the following
generations up
to the start of the last century when the wind of the holy spirit
fanned the
flame into a blaze.
This
blaze caused a spiritual revival in the USA in Asuza Street and also in
Norway
spreading soon after to the UK through a Church of England vicar in
Sunderland
by the name of Alexander Boddy who became the founder of the
"Pentecostal
Fellowship" in England though remaining in the Church of England as a
vicar
up to his death in the l930's. He was the most influential leader of
the
Pentecostal movement in the
In
the early l900's the wind of the Holy Spirit swept through S Wales
through Evan
Roberts, which was the start of the well-known Welsh Revival, giving
birth to
the Elim Assemblies of God and Apostolic churches still the main ones
in the
Pentecostal movement of whom Yong Cho is the present president
pastoring the
largest Pentecostal congregation in the world in Korea.
The
Pentecostals, as they were called grew greatly in numbers drawing
adherents
from many of the traditional denominations who rejected the tongues
phenomena
and were co-ordinated into fellowships under the leadership of Rev
Alexander
Boddy – out of which developed the three sections – Elim under the
Jeffrey
brothers; The Assemblies of God under the Carter brothers and Donald
Gee and
Nelson Parr; and the Apostolic under D.P. Williams.
In
l924 the Assemblies of God held its first conference in which it
elected an
executive presbytery and missionary council, drawing up a statement of
faith
which all members were expected to adhere to. The main issue separating
these
three fellowships is governmental although like most denominations
scriptural
differences also are involved.
The
Assemblies of God churches work autonomously with a regional
superintendent
under the umbrella of the Executive council, previously the executive
presbytery. Tithing is expected of its members but not compelled.
Infants are
blessed and dedicated, the water comes later when they are ready to
make a
personal declaration of faith in Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord
Assemblies of
God ministers who are called Pastor are inducted after training at
Mattersey
Hall our
There
are 700+ churches in the Pentecostal Church in the UK and is increasing
continually, due probably to the informal type of worship which appeals
to
young people, the greater part ofthe congregation. By the l960's the
charismatic movement came into being through people like Michael Harper
a
Church of England vicar and Edgar Trout a Methodist minister and the
well-known
brethren speaker David Lillie bringing understanding and respectability
to the
Pentecostal movement, with even bishops filled with the spirit.
Finally
Emmanuel in Llandudno. A
small gathering of Pentecostals met in a
local hotel for fellowship for a while and as they grew in number moved
to
several buildings and in l990 took over Emmanuel with Kevin Bank as
pastor. We
have been without a pastor since Kevin left 7 years ago and the church
is
served by 3 elders and church council.
Cyflwynodd
Mr B C Lynch yr uchod drwy egluro bod yr uchod yn rhan o
gynulliad Pentecostaidd fyd-eang a gychwynodd ar ddydd Pentecost yr
Iddewon. Yr oedd
yn gychwyn ar yr a gyfeirir ato fel "Goruchwyliaeth yr Ysbryd" a
dderbynir fel "genedigaeth yr Eglwys" a ddethlir adeg ein Sulgwyn.
Bu
bron i brofiad y Pentecost ddiflannu yn ystod yr 'Oesoedd Tywyll', ond fe erys rai yn fyddlon i gadw profiad ysbrydol y
Pentecost
yn fyw drwy genedlaethau hyd at gychwyn yr ugeinfed ganrif pan
ddisgynodd yr
Ysbryd Glan yn ei nerth unwaith eto.
Yn
dilyn fe arweiniodd at ddiwygiad ysbrydol
yn yr Unol
Daleithiau Norwy a Prydain Fawr drwy sylfaenydd y Mudiad Pentecostaidd
yn y
wlad hon y Parch Alexander Boddy, ficer gyda Eglwys Lloegr. Hyd
at ei farw yn y tridegau yr oedd yn arweinydd dylanadol o fewn y mudiad
yn y
wlad hon.
Ar
ddechrau'r ganrif ddiwethaf Evan Roberts yw'r enw a gysylltir a'r
Diwygiad.
Mae Cynulliadau Duw a' r Eglwysi
Apostolaidd, yn dal y
rhai mwyaf pwysig o fewn y mudiad gyda Yong Cho y Llywydd presennol ac
yn
arwain y gynulleidfa fwyaf o'r mudiad yng ngwlad Corea. Daeth
nifer o enwadau eraill i ymuno a'r Pentecostiaid dan arweiniad y ficer
y Parch
Alexander Boddy.
O'r
Cynulliad yma datblygodd tair rhan:- ELIM dan y brodyr Jeffrey,
Cynulliadau Duw
gyda y brodyr Carter, Donald Gee a Nelson Parr ac yna YR Eglwys
Apostolaidd
gyda D P Williams yn arwain. Yn eu cyfarfod cyntafyn l924 fe
etholwyd Cyngor Cenhadol a Datganiad o'u cred a oeddent i'w ddilyn.
Materion
llywodraethol yn bennafyw'r gwahaniaeth mwyaf rhyngddynt ac
fel pob enwad ychydig o faterion Y sgrythurol.
Mae
Eglwysi Cynulliadau Duw yn hunanlywodraethol i raddau helaeth gyda
Goruchwiliwr
rhanbarthol yn gweithredu ar ran y Cyngor Gweithedol. Mae
degwm i'w dalu gan yr aelodau ond nid yw yn orfodol. Fel y
Bedwyddyr
ceir trochiad llawn i fedyddio pan mae'r aelod yn ddigon aeddfed i
sylweddoli
arwyddocad y weithred gysegredig hon Bendithir a chysegrir babanod, ni chant eu bedyddio yn llawn hyd iddynt fod yn
ddigon
aeddfed i ddatgan eu hymroddiad i Jesu Grist.
Caiff
gweindogion iddynt – gelwir hwynt yn Pastor – eu hyfforddi yn
Mattersey Hall cyn eu sefydlu i weinidogaeth lawn. Mae gan pob Eglwys leol ei
diaconiaid sy'n gyfrifol am weithgareddau yr Eglwys. Mae dros 700 ar
hyn o bryd
o eglwysi Cynulliadau Duw ym Mhrydain Fawr ac yn i dyfu, yn denu'r
ifanc, o
bosib am bod ffurfeu haddoliad yn anffurfiol, yr ifanc yw gan amlaf y
gaman
uchaf yn eu gwasanaethau.
Erbyn
y chwedeagau yr oedd y mudiad carismataidd yn lledaenu drwy weithgaredd
Michael
Harper ficer gyda'r Eglwys Loegr ac Edgar Trout gweinidog gyda' r
Methodistiaid
a David Lillie a arweiniodd tuag at gwell dealltwriaeth a parchusrwydd
i' r
Mudiad Pentecostaidd
Daeth
ein hachos yrna yn lleol i fodolaeth trwy gyfardod yn gyntaf mewn
gwessty lleol
ac fel y cynyddodd ein dilynwyr symud o le i le hyd at symud i lmmanuel
yn l990
gyda Kevin Bank yn gweinidogaethu amom, ers saith mlynedd nid oes
gennyrn
Weinidog ond fe'n gwasanaethir gan dri o ddiaconiaid a Cyngor Eglwysig.
Some
years ago we had a request from
E-mail: rohdepatba@aol.com
Derbyniwyd
cais ychydig flynyddoedd yn ol gan ; Golege
Diwinyddol
yr Eglwys Unedig Rarongo am : lyfrau diwinyddol a chylchgronau ar gyfer
eu
Llyfrgell. Gyda eich cyrnorth fe ddanfonwyd
nifer. iddynt yn cynnwys rhai cylchgronau
esboniadol. Yr wythnos ddiwethaf derbynbwyd cais
tebyg ar gyfer Llyfrgell Coleg
Gweinidogion George Brown. Dylid cofio fod safon addysgol y
gweinidogion
ychydig yn is na rhai o'r myfyrwyr
diwinyddol. Os tybiech bod gennych unrhyw gafrol a
fuasai o fudd iddynt
crysyllter a Patrick a Barbara Rohde 0l492 878504.
E-mail:
rohdepatba@aol.com
It is a
challenging time for the Christian Church.
In the face of the threat of war we attempt to understand and promote
the
teaching of Jesus.
"Blessed
are the Peacemakers", says the
Sermon on the Mount; "...the
greatest of these is love" says Paul's first letter to the Church in
Corinth, and whilst the first great Commandment is to love God, the
second is
"Love your neighbour as yourself'. Jesus' approach is always
constructive,
never destructive, always positive, never negative. He tells his
followers to pray
for the fulfilling of the Will of Heaven here on earth, for His Kingdom
to come
in the world.
The
Church leads the way in Peacemaking. The
leaders of the nations have made their way to Rome to seek audience
with the
Pope. He urges peace, not war. The new Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr
Rowan
Williams and the Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster are joined by those
who
lead the Free Churches in praying and working for a peaceful solution
to the
crisis in the Middle East.
Here in
Llandudno we held, early on – some weeks
ago – a most effective Vigil for Peace at Holy Trinity Church. Over 200
people
shared in that candlelit vigil. On the day of the great London March a
number,
unable to make the journey to London, stood in a testimony for peace in
the
grounds of Holy Trinity. We are grateful to those who made the
arrangements for
these demonstrations. I and many hundreds from North Wales, joined the
March
for Peace in London. Over a million people walked in the bitter cold
for five
or six hours. In hundreds of cities throughout the world millions more
showed
their concern - the largest number, probably, the two million who
thronged the
streets of Rome. There were babes a few weeks old in the arms of their
parents
and very elderly people (even older than me !) pushed in invalid
chairs. A
very genuine anxiety saw people who had
never before demonstrated in this way take to the streets in the cause
of
Peace.
The
situation is very uncertain, but clearly the
concerns of the millions has influenced the thinking of world leaders.
We
continue, indeed persist, in praying for a Peaceful and Just world.
At home
Cytûn once again held a very beautiful
service for the Renewal of Marriage Vows. Thanks to the Rev Jane Allan
and
Father Anthony Jones for organising this – and to Stella Maris for the
post-service hospitality!
The Rev
John Lewis Jones was inducted minister of
the United Welsh Church. The splendid service at Seilo was very well
attended.
Our very best wishes to John in a very challenging post.
I'm told
that the amalgamation in the Llandudno
Parish has also been a success.
"Dechrau
Canu, Dechrau Canmol" is to be
broadcast – the second, from Seilo on June 29th on the occasion of the
visit of
the Methodist Conference, for the first time ever, to North Wales. By
the time this
Newsletter reaches you the world will have listened to our singing –
about 650
voices conducted by Tristan Lewis with Iris Hughes as organist. For me
it was a
truly outstanding experience and thanks to all who made it possible.
Finally,
our best wishes to all who are in
difficult circumstances – illness, bereavement, crisis – our love
and our
prayers are with you.
Yours
very sincerely,
Roger
Roberts
Mae'n
gyfnod a her i'r Eglwys Gristnogol. Yn wyneb
bygythiad rhyfel ceisiwn ddeall a hybu dysgeidiaeth yr lesu.
"Gwyn eu
byd y tangneteddwyr II medd y
Bregeth ar y Mynydd, " ….. y mwyat o'r rhai hyn yw cariad" medd
Ilythyr cyntat Paul at Eglwys Corinth a gan mai'r gorychymyn cyntat yw
i ni
garu Duw, yr ail yw i ni garu'n cymydog tel ni ein hunain"
Mae agwedd yr lesu bob amser yn adeiladol,
byth yn ddinistriol, yn gadarnhaol a byth yn negyddol. Mae'n erfyn ei
ddilynwyr
i weddio i Ewyllus y Netoedd gael ei
gyflawni
yma ar y ddaear, i'w Deyrnas ddod i'r
byd.
Mae'r
Eglwys i arwain wrth greu heddwch. Mae
arweinwyr y cenhedloedd wedi ymweld a'r Pab yn
Rhutain.
Mae’n annog heddwch, nid rhyfel. Mae'e
Archesgod newydd Caergaint. Dr Rowan Williams a
Phennaeth
yr Eglwys Gatholig ym Mhrydain wedi
ymuno ac arweinwyr yr Eglwysi Rhyddion i weiddio a
gweithio
am heddwch yn y Dwyrain Canol.
Yma yn
Llandudno cynhaliwyd gwylnos yng ngolau'r
ganwyll rhai wythnosau'n ol yn Eglwys y Drindod eta dros 200 yn
bresennol. Ar
ddiwrnod yr Orymdaith Fawr yn Llundain daeth rhai, yn methu a theithio i
Lundain,
i setyll yn dawel mewn tystiolaeth dros
heddwch a flaen Eglwys y Drindod. Diolch i'r rhai a
dretnodd
y digwyddiadau hyn. Oeddwn i eta cannoedd
eraill a Ogledd Cymru yn yr Orymdaith yn Llundain. Dros miliwn a bobl
yn
cerdded am bum ney chwe awr ar ddiwrnod eithriadol a oer.
Mewn
cannoedd a ddinasoedd drwy'r byd cerddodd
miliynau a bobl -y niter fwyat, mae'n debyg y dau
filiwn yn
Rhufain. Babanod ym mreichiau eu rhieni,
henoed (yn hyn na fi hyd yn oed !) mewn cadeiriau
olwyn.
Roedd pryder eithriadol wedi anton
pobl'roedd heb orymdeithio erioed o'r blaen i gerdded dros
heddwch.
Mae'r
sefyllta yn ansicr, ond heb os mae pryder y
miliynau wedi dylanwadu ar arweinwyr y byd. Parhawn i weddio am fyd a
Heddwch a
Chyfiawnder. Hefyd mae Cytûn yma yn Llandudno wedi cynnal
gwasanaeth
hyfryd a Adnewyddu Addewidion Priodas.
Diolch i'r Parch Jane Allan a'r Tad Anthony Jones am drefnu hwn - ac i
Stella
Maris am eu croeso!
Sefydlwyd
y Parch John Lewis Jones yn weinidog ar yr
Eglwys Unedig Gymraeg. Daeth cynulleidfa fawr i wasanaeth arbennig
iawn. Ein
dymuniadau gorau i John mewn swydd Ilawn sialens.
Clywaf
i'r uno eglwysi Plwyf Llandudno fod yn
llwyddiant.
Ar Mawrth
2 darlledwyd "Dechrau Canu. Dechrau
Canmol" o Seilo. Darlledir yr ail raglen ar Fehefin 29 ar achlysur
ymweliad cyntaf erioed a Gogledd Cymru o'r Gynhadledd Fethodistaidd.
Erbyn i
chi ddarllen y Cylchlythyr bydd y byd wedi gwrando arnom – rhyw 650 o
leisiau
dan arweiniad Tristan Lewis efo Iris
Hughes ar
yr organ. I mi’roedd yn brofiad arbennig
a diolch a bawb a'i gwnaeth yn bosibl.
Yn olaf
dymunwn yn dda i bob un mewn amgylchiadau
anodd – afiechyd, profedigaeth, argyfwng – mae ein cariad a'n gweddiau
efo chi.
yn gywir
iawn,
Roger
Roberts.
by Rev
Neil Kirkham
The
origins of the Calvinistic Methodist movement
in Wales lie with Griffith Jones, Llandowror, in the late l7th
century, though most people will associate it with the conversion of
Howel Harris,
Trefeca under the preaching of Pryce Davies, Vicar of Talgarth. With
him in the
movement were Daniel Rowland, curate of Llangaitha and William
Williams,
Pantycelyn as the hymnologist. Their purpose was to reform the Anglican
Church
in which they remained until their death. Only in the next generation
when
no Anglicans
would give them
communion, did they separate taking their order of Church government
from John
Calvin.
Thomas
Charles of Bala provided the guiding hand
at the first ordination in 1811. He was then inspired by the efforts of
Mary
Jones, to become a founder member of the Bible Society.
In
1904/05 Evan Roberts ofLoughor was instrumental
in bringing revival throughout South Wales spreading northward although
the
work took its toll on him personally.
Today we
find ourselves in decline with too many
buildings and not enough ministers. We are 80% Welsh speaking and
organised
into regional Presbyteries (North Wales Coast stretches from Caernarfon
to
Prestatyn and comprises 10 churches). Above are three Associations;
North and
South being geographical and Welsh speaking. The Association in the
East covers
all the English speaking churches throughout Wales and the borders. The
Associations then meet annually at the General Assembly in Lampeter.
We are
currently seeking to reorganise in an
effort to streamline a cumbersome structure and free valuable resources.
gan y
Parch Neil Kirkham
Trwy
waith Griffith Jones Llanddowror tun diweddail
ganrif ar bymtheg y bu dechreuad Methodistaidd
Galfinaidd
yng Nghymru. serch bod rhai yn cysylltu
troedigaeth Howel Harris dan ddylanwad pregethu Ficer Talgarth Pryce
Davies.
Gydag efyn y mudiad oedd Daniel Rowland curad Llangeitho a William
Williams
Pantycelyn yr Emynydd. Eu nod oedd diwygio yr Eglwys Anglicanaidd. Bu
raid aros
hyd y genhedlaeth nesaf iddynt wahanu dan drefniad John Calfin gan na
allent
gymuno gyda’ r Anglicaniaid.
Thomas
Charles o'r Bala a lywyddodd yr ordinhad
cyntaf yn 1811; yr oedd wedi ei gyffroi yn fawr drwy ymdrechion Mary
Jones a
ddaeth yn aelod gwreiddiol y Feibl Gymdeithas.
Yn ystod
l904-05 bu diwygiad crefyddol dan
ddylanwad Evan Roberts, gan ddechrau ynNe Cymru
cyn
cyrraedd y Gogledd.
Erbyn
heddiw mae'n sefyllfa ddigon pryderus -
gormod o adeiladau ond heb ddigon o weinidogion,
Mae 80%
ohonom yn Gymru Cymraeg, wedi ein rhannu i
Henaduriaethau rhanbarthol, gyda tair
Cymdeithasfa
Y De a'r Gogledd yn Gymraeg a
Chymdeithasfa y Dwyrain yn Saesneg, yn rheoli pob
Eglwys
Saesneg yng Nghymru a'r Gorosau. Maent oll
yn cyfarfod yn tlynyddol mewn Cymanfa Gyffredinol yn Llanbedr.
Ar hyn o
anser yr ydym yn mynd drwy y broses o
ad-drefnu yn y gobaith y bydd yn fwy manteisiol ar gyfer y gweinyddu.
Llandudno
Junction, Saturday 2 November 2002 by
Patrick Rohde our Secretary
The
President of Llandudno Cytûn, Parchig Roger
Roberts, received an invitation after inviting the Conwy Islamic Centre
to attend
the September ll Service on the Promenade, Llandudno. He was away in
Australia,
and Rev Nick Sissons and Mrs Janet Hughes represented Cytûn. Barbara
and I
received an invitation. The Centre in Glan y Marl Rd in the Junction is
an old
Baptist chapel. The members of the Muslim community have spent 4 years
renovating the building and they have certainly made an excellent job
of it.
Inside
the door we took off our shoes and most of
the lady guests wore head scarves in accordance with
Muslim
tradition. We were received warmly and
given drinks downstairs. I had a long talk with Dr Valijan, a
consultant
anaesthetist in Ysbyty Gwynedd, while Sister Batool Al Toma, an Irish
convert
to Islam had a lively talk with Barbara. The Police were represented
and both Mrs
Betty Williams MP and Jane Ryder AM were present and spoke.
They then
went upstairs to the gallery which had
been tastefully converted into a small conference area. We were
welcomed by the
Chairman, whom we took to be Mr Amirech. He expressed the gratitude of
the
Muslim community for all the support they had received after September
11. He
particularly thanked the Police, the Society of Friends and the other
Christian
communities. The main points of his talk and the succeeding ones were
projected
in a high tech manner on the wall. We heard that there are 40 Muslim
families
from the area worshipping at the mosque. Relations were generally good
with
other communities and the local authorities, though the Muslim
community were
hoping for arrangements for them to conduct their own funerals to be
agreed.
The next
speaker was Mohammed Seddon, a research
worker at the Islamic Centre in Leicester. He is a
Mancunian
and we later met his very bright wife
and son. She was brought up in Nelson. His short talk went back to the
first
English coin of King Offa, which had an inscription with 'Mohammed, the
messenger of God' on, just l50 years after the death of Mohammed. He
also
referred to the 9th century, Ballycottin Cross from Ireland which has
'bismillah ' in the centre. He stressed that there was much cross
fertilization
of ideas during the period of the Crusades. In the l9th century many
Yemeni
sailors came to Cardiff where a mosque was built in l860. There are now
4l
mosques in Wales. He stressed the need for dialogue.
Sister
Batool Al Toma from Ireland spoke feelingly
about the true teaching of the Koran on the equality of women and men
and the
strength of the family. She stressed that we worshipped the same God
and spoke of
the common ground between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. We then went
downstairs for a wonderful spread of tasty bakemeats and sandwiches. We
felt we
had been with fellow searchers for God's will for our community and our
country
in these turbulent and materialistic times. We hope to be able to build
on
these links in the days ahead.
Yn dilyn
gwahoddiad gan Lywydd Cytûn Llandudno, y
Parch Roger Roberts i'r Ganolfan uchod
anfon
cynrychiolaeth i'r Gwasaaeth Coffad am
drychineb 11 Medi, derbyniodd yntau wahoddiad i
ddiwrnod
agored a gynhaliwyd ganddynt yn
ddiweddar. Gan fod ein Llywydd ar y pryd yn
Awstralia
fe'i cynrychiolwyd gan ddau aelod o
Cytûn Llandudno.
Hen
addoldy y Bedyddwyr yw y Ganolfan yng Nghyffordd
Llandudno wedi ei atgyweirio dros y
blynyddoedd
diwethaf gan y gymuned Moslemaidd
lleol. Derbyniwyd y ddau gynrychiolydd gan Dr
Valijan
sydd yn anesetydd ymg Ylngynghorol yn
Ysbyty Gwynedd a'r Chwaer Batool Al Toma,
Gwyddeles,
sydd wedi troi at y grefydd Islamaidd.
Ymysg y gwahoddedigion oedd yr Aelod Seneddol
lleol,
Mrs Betty Williams aelod y Cynulliad Janet
Ryder ac aelodau o Heddlu Gogledd Cymru.
Croesawyd
ni ymhellach gan y Cadeirydd, Mr Amirech
a ddiolchodd ar ran y gymdeithas Foslemaidd
am y
gefnogaeth a dderbynient yn dilyn ll Mediyn
lleol, mynegodd ei ddiolchgarwch yn arbennig i
aelodau
o'r Heddlu, y Crynwyr a chymdeithasau
Cristnogol eraill.
Eglurodd
bod deugain o deuluoedd Mwslemaidd yn y
gymuneb yma yn lleol yn addoli yn y Mosg, a
canmolodd
y cysylltiadau agos cydrhwng eu
cymdeithas ac eraill gan gynnwys yr A wdurdod Lleol, eu gobaith yn y
dyfodol
agos yw gallu trefnu iddynt gynnal gwasanaethau angladdol drostynt eu
hunain.
Y
gŵr gwadd oedd brodor o Faenceinion,
Mahommed Seddon, sydd yn gwneud gwaith
ymchwil yn y
Ganolfan
Islmnaidd yng Nghaerlyr, Cyfeiriodd yn
ystod ei sylwadau ymysg pethau eraill am y darn
arian.
prydeinig cyntaf o gynod y Brenin Offa
gyda'r geiriau 'Mohamed -negeseuwr Duw' arno, hyn, cant a hanner o
flynyddoedd
ar ol marwolaeth Mohamed; cyfeiriodd hefyd at y Groes 'Ballycottin' o
Iwerddon
sydd a 'bismillah' yn ei chanol. Yng nghyfnod y Croesgadwyr yr oedd
cryn nifer
o gyfnewid syniadau yn mynd ymlaen. Yn ystod y l9eg ganrif daeth nifer
o forwyr
Yemen i Gaerdydd gan addoli yn y Mosg a adeiladwyd yn y flwyddyn 1860.
Mae 4l o
rhain yng Nghymru ein dyddiau ni, yr oedd am weld mwy o drafod a
sgwrsio yn ein
plith. Mewn araith fer pwysleisiodd y Chwaer Batool Al Toma ein bod yn
addoli
yr un Duw.
Report
by Rev Tim Hall
We are
seeking to take l00 young people from our
area, as a group in two coaches to an evening with Matt Redman (leading
contemporary worship-song writer for the younger generation) and J John
(UK's
foremost evangelist. This event is in the RHYL PAVILION on MONDAY l0
MARCH.
Tickets are £8, and we would encourage churches to 'sponsor' their
young people
to go.
MISSION
HOUSE commends SUNDAY EVENINGS at Mission
House where young people are leading
worship,
sharing the Scriptures, and praying
together. The House opens at 7.30 and worship begins at 8.l0 - the
current age
range is l5 to late 20's.
Yr ydym
ar hyn o bryd yn ceisio trefnu i fynd a
tua cant o bobl ifanc i noson yng nghwmni Matt Redman a J John a
gynhelir yn y
Pafiliwm yn Rhyl nos Lun y lofed. oF awrth. Y pris yw £8 ac hyderwn y
gwnaiff
yr eglwysi lleol roddi cymorth ariannol i'r Ieuainc gael mynd. Mae gan
Y Ty
Cenhadol ugain (20) o docynnau, ni fydd yn rhaid talu cludiant i Rhyl.
Mae
gennyf l00 o docynnau eisoes wedi talu amdanynt ac yr wyf yn awr yn
ceisio
cefnogaeth ariannol am yr ail fws (mae'r gyntafyn llawn). Mwy o
wybodaeth drwy
gysylltu a Tim Hall neu Patrick Rohde.
Y bobl
ifanc sy'n arwain ein addoliad a'n myfyrdod
ar nosweithiau Sul, drysau ar agor 7.30, addoliad yn
cychwyn
8.l0 yr hwyr. Mae oedran yr ifanc yn
bresennolo l5oed, i'r ugeiniau.
Cyfarfodydd
Gweddio Cytûn ar yr ail Sadwrn o bob
mis, 07.00 y bore hyd 8.00 y bore yng Nghanolfan
Emmanuel.
CYTÛN
MESSAGE
The
Churches of LIandudno appear to be as busy as
ever! Once again, a word of genuine appreciation to all those who make
things
happen. Our Commemoration of the September ll 200l devastation in New
York and
Washington was held at the Cenotaph on the Promenade. Some reckon that
nearly
l,000 people were present. It was a time of reflection and commitment.
In the
face of threats from so many different directions we prayed together –
the
Islamic and Jewish communities joined with our Christian churches - we
prayed
for national leaders and ordinary people the world over. When we say
"Our
Father" we recognise that we are very much one family with
responsibility
for our brothers and sisters everywhere.
Many
thanks to the Town Band, the Scottish Piper
and everyone who was part of this
commemoration.
Our first
Cytûn Lunch attracted just short of one
hundred people to St David's, Craig y Don. It was a time of real
fellowship and
a deepening of our understanding of each other. There were NO speeches!
(nor
sermons!). People look forward eagerly to the next meal!
Every
month the Ministers' Fraternal meets at
Stella Maris and we receive a royal welcome - not just discussion but a
first
class meal. For this - a million thanks. At our last meeting we put
together
the programme for the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity - the l0.30
morning
services will be - Saturday, January l8, Immanuel; Sunday evening at 6
pm the
United Service, probably at Deganwy Avenue Chapel; Monday at Our Lady
Star of
the Sea; Tuesday at Tabemacl; Wednesday at St David's Craig y don;
Thursday at
Holy Trinity; Friday at Christ Church and Saturday at St Paul's.
We also
look forward to our Annual Conference.
This year the subject is "United We Stand" and the leader is the
Moderator of the Presbyterian Church of Wales, the Rev Meirion Lloyd
Davies. So
please come on Friday, Nov 29 at 7 to Deganwy Avenue Chapel and on
Saturday
between l0 and l2 to Stella Maris.
I was
delighted to join in a service conducted by
Dr Rowan Williams, who is the new Archbishop of Canterbury, in early
August at
St David's Cathedral. We wish him well in a very challenging
appointment. Have
we ever had a Welsh speaking Archbishop of Canterbury before ?
On two
occasions I have been present at the
Vatican and have met Pope John Paul. This October the Pope celebrated
24 years
in his post. During that time he has been on 240 trips, has met with 5l
kings,
queens and princes, 27l presidents and 88 prime ministers!
The
Methodist Conference visits North Wales for
the first time ever at the end of June 2003. It is being held in our
own town
and, again, is a very special Conference as it celebrates the 300th
Anniversary
of the birth of John Wesley. Finally, we send our best wishes to the
Church in
Wales in Llandudno on the amalgamation of churches and send our thanks
to the
stalwarts of St George's and Church of our Saviour who move to Holy
Trinity.
But all
is not lost! I understand that the Baptist
Church (Craig y don) will be moving to the Church of Our Saviour and
our best
wishes are extended to them.
Yours
sincerely,
Roger
Roberts
Neqes
qan Lwvdd Cytûn
Mae
pethau cyffrous yn mynd ymlaen o fewn cylch
Cytûn LIandudno mynegaf fy niolch gwresog i'r holl aelodau am eu
gweithgarwch.
Daeth
bron i fil o bobl
i ymgynnull ger y Gofeb i'r gwasanaeth o Goffadwriaeth a drefnwyd
gennym i
gofio am drychineb Medi Ileg 200l yn Efrog Newydd a Washington. O
gofio'r
bygythiadau sydd beunydd yn ein gwynebu yr oedd yn gyfle i fyfyrio ac o
ymroddiad i weddio am decach gwawr - daeth aelodau o gymdeithas y
Moslemiaid ac
Iddewig i ymunio ani - gan offrwm gweddi dros Arweinwyr y gwledydd a
phobl y
byd drosodd. Pan fynegwn "EIN TAD", yr ydym yn cydnabod mae aelodau
ydym o un teulu gyda chyfrifoldeb dros ein brodyr a chwiorydd led-led y
byd.
Yr ydym
yn gwerthfawrogi yn fawr gyfraniad
Seindorf y Dre, y Pibydd Albanaidd a phawb a gymerodd ran yn y
gwasanaeth.
Daeth
yn aaos i gant
ohonom at ein gilydd i fwynhau cinio Sui yn eglwys Dewi Sant, Craig y
Don; dim
araith, (dim pregeth!) ond sgwrsio mewn cwmni diddan. Edrych rhai
ymlaen i'r
nesaf!
Cawn
qroeso tywvsoaaidd
yn
fisol yn Stella Maris lie cyfarfu y Frwdoliaeth, trafodaeth dda a doeth
a bwyd
blasus tu hwnt; diolch yn gynnes iawn. Dyma raglen a luniwyd ar gyfer
Wythnos
Weddi Cytûn , pob cyfarfod am l0.30 y bore.- Sadwrn, lonawr l8ed.,
Immanuel, am
6.0 nos
Yn
ogystal edrychwn ymlaen i'n Cynhadledd Flynyddol yng nghapel Rhodfa Deganwy,
Gwener, 29ain.
Tachwedd, a 0l0.00 y bore hyd l2.00 y Sadwrn yn Stella Maris. Arweinydd
y Gynhadledd
eleni fydd y Parchedig Meirion Lloyd Dayies, Pwllheli, Liywydd Eglwys
Bresbyteraidd Cymru; y tesun fydd 'Safwn a'n Gilydd'..
Yr
oeddwn yn hynod
falch
o gael bod yn bresennol mewn gwasanaeth ym mis Awst yn Eglwys Gadeiriol
Ty
Ddewi dan arweiniad y Parchedicaf Ddr. Rowan Williams, Llongyfarchwn ef
ar ei
benodiad, y Cymro Cymraeg cyntaf o bosib, i fod yn Archesgob Caergaint.
Bum
ddwvwaith mewn
gwasanaeth yn y Fatican lie cyfarfum a'r Pab John Paul unwaith; mis
Hydref
eleni mae'n dathlu 24ain o flynyddoedd yn ei swydd ac yn ystod y cyfnod
mae
wedi gwneud 240 o deithiau wedi cyfarfod a 5l o frenhinoedd a
breninesau, 27l o
Arlywyddion ac 88 o brifweinidogion.
Daw y
Gynhadledd Fethodisaidd yma i Llandudno am y tro cyntaf ddiwedd Mehefin 2003; bydd
yn Gynhadledd
arbennig fel y dathlwn dri chan mlynedd er genedigaeth John Wesley.
Ac yn
olaf
anfonwn ein dymuniadau gorau i'r Eglwys yng Nghymru yma yn Llandudno,
daw
Eglwys Sant Sior ac Eglwys ein Gwaredwr at eu gilydd i ymuno a Eglwys y
Drindod. Deallaf fod Eglwys Bedyddwyr, Craig y Don yn symud i eglwys
ein
Gwaredwr a dymuniadau gorau iddynt hwythau.
Yn Gywir,
Roger
Roberts
by Rev
Roger Roberts – Cytûn Council, October 2002
The
Methodist Church was established by John
Wesley following his conversion experience on May 24th l738, "I felt my
heart strangely warmed; I felt I did trust in Christ, Christ alone for
salvation, and an assurance was given to me that he had taken away my
sins,
even mine and saved me from the law of sin and death"
During
his lifetime John Wesley travelled
thousands of miles through Great Britain, emphasising scriptural
holiness, the
opportunity of forgiveness for all who sought it, the personal
assurance and
experience of this new state of grace. No one was outside the grace and
forgiveness of God.
He
established "Societies" local
churches throughout the land. These Societies worked together in
Circuits, the
Circuits co-operated in Districts. And the Districts of which there are
nearly
40 in Britain come together in the Methodist Conference which is the
final
authority of the Methodist Church. For the first time ever this
Conference is
meeting in North Wales, here in Llandudno, this June. Within the
world-wide
Methodist Church there are more than 70 million members.
Sefydlwyd
yr eglwys gan John Wesley wedi iddo gael
profiad o droedigaeth ar 24 o Fai l738
"Cynheswyd
fy nghalon yn rhyfeddol. Rhodddwyd
sicrwydd i mi fy mod wedi fy achub ac i Grist farw dros fy mhechodau i"
Yn ystod
ei oes teithiodd John Wesley led led
Prydain a throsodd i'r Iwerddon. Sefydlwyd yr Eglwys Fethodistaidd efo
pwyslais
arbennig ar sancteiddrwydd ysgrythurol, y posibilrwydd o brofiad a
sicrwydd
iachawdwriaeth a maddeuant Ilawn i bob un oedd yn credu. "Dewch
bechaduriaid o bob gradd, mae John Wesley eto'n gwadd"
Sefydlodd
seiadau drwy'r wlad. a'r seiadau/eglwysi
lleol, yn cydweithio yn gylchdeithiau a'r cylchdeithiau yn cydweithio
a'u
gilydd mewn taleithiau. Mae bron i 40 talaith ym Mhrydain a'r rhain yn
dod at
eu gilydd fel un Eglwys. Y brif awdurdod yw'r Gynhadledd F ethodistaidd
sy'n
cyfarfod am y tro cyntaf Mehefin 2003 yma yn Llandudno. Hefyd mae
eglwysi mewn
llawer rhan o'r byd efo tua 70 miliwn o aelodau i gyd.
It
is a great pleasure to write this letter to all the members of the
Christian
Church in Llandudno. We
have, over recent years, made so much progress in
our relationship as
Churches in this area. No longer are there massive divisions between us
- we do
so much together - and we long to do more. It is wonderful that we
share so
much as brothers in sisters in Jesus.
Thank
you for welcoming me as the new President of Cytûn. This is the third
time that
I've filled this post but what a difference! We hardly dared to dream
of such
understanding thirty years ago. I try to visit all our churches and
chapels to
share in different functions and am so grateful to be welcomed
everywhere.
Surely Llandudno must be one of the best examples of Christian
togetherness in
the whole of
The
new
We
have a splendid team of officers organising the work of Cytûn. We
extend to
them our most genuine
gratitude for their work. A special thanks to our
retiring president Father Tony
Jones who was such an
outstanding and inspirational president.
I'm
so aware of the debt we owe to those who give so much time and skill to
the
work of the our various
churches. Here in Llandudno we owe them so much - the
folk who welcome us, who
wash the dishes,
prepare our services and other activities, call on
sick members the list is
endless. They are the "unsung
heroes" without whom the Church would be at a
complete loss.
There
are a number of events planned for the coming months –
On
Wednesday, September ll at l.30 pm we shall meet at the Cenotaph to
commemorate
those who were killed twelve months ago in
On
Sunday, October l3 at l2.45 there will be a Cytûn lunch at St David's,
Craig y
Don. Tickets are likely to be £8 and already there is a great deal of
interest.
More later.
Our
Annual Conference will be led by the President of the Presbyterian
Church in
There
will be an evening of Hymn Singing - more later.
I
wish you all a really blessed time in your own churches and together in
Cytûn.
Yours
sincerely,
J.
Roger Roberts.
Pleser
anghyffredin yw cael anton y Ilythyr hwn i
holl
aelodau'r Eglwys Gristnogol yn LIandudno. Rydym
wedi symud
ymlaen yn sylweddol yn ein perthynas a'n gilydd. Mwyach nid oes
gagendor
aruthrol rhyngom – gwnawn cymaint gyda'n gilydd – ac ydym yn dyheu am gael gwneud mwy. Mae'n hyfryd i ni
rannu cymaint tel brodyr a chwiorydd yn yr lesu.
Diolch
am ty nghroesawu telllywydd Cytûn. Dyma'r trydedd gwaith i mi gael yr anrhydedd, ond am
wahaniaeth! Mae mwy o gyd-ddeallt na
tuasom yn
breuddwydio amdano tri deg o flynyddoedd yn ol. Ceisiaf ymweld a bob un o'n capel ac eglwysi ac rwyf yn ddiolchar iawn
am y
croeso rwy'n ei dderbyn.
Yn
sicr mae LIandudno yn un o'r engreifftiau
gorau yng
Nghymru o Gristnogion yn gweithio eto'u gilydd. Mae'r
Eglwys
Unedig Gymraeg wedi gwahodd y Parch John Lewis Jones (
Mae
tim o swyddogion hyfryd yn tretu gwaith
Cytûn. Diolch
o galon iddynt –
Diolch
arbennig i'r Tad Tony Jones, a orffennodd
ei dymor
telllywydd ac a anwodd y swydd hyd yr ymylon. Rwy'n
ymwybodol
o'n dyled i'r rhai yn ein eglwysi sy'n rhoi o'u hamser a'u doniau i
waith y
deymas. Yma yn Llandudno mae cymaint
o gyfeillion
rydym yn ddyledus iddynt - y rhai sy'n ein croesawu i'r addoldai, y
rhai sy'n
golchi Ilestri, yn paratoi ein gwasanaethau, yn ymweld a'r cleifion
does dim
diwedd i'r rhestr. Hebddynt byddem ar goll yn
Ilwyr.
Mae
niter o ddigwyddiadau dros y misoedd nesat. Dydd Mercher, Medi ll am
l.30pm wrth y Goted (Cenotaph) cawn wasanaeth i gofio'r rhai a tu tarw
blwyddyn
yn ol yn Etrog Newydd.
Ar
y Sui, Hydret l3 am l2.45 bydd cinio Cytûn
yn Eglwys
St David, Craig y don. Tocynnau £8. Mwy eto am hyn.
Cynhelir
ein Cynhadledd Flynyddol, dan arweiniad y Parch Meirion Lloyd Davies,
Nos Wener
Tachwedd 29 am 7 yng Nghapel Deganwy Ave. Bydd cylchoedd tratod yn
Stella Maris
y nos Wener ac, i'r rhai tedr ddod y bore Sadwrn. Y testun tydd “Mewn
Undeb mae nerth”. Trowch i mewn am 7 y nos
Wener.
Ymhellach
ymlaen bydd noson o Ganu Emynau.
Dymunaf
i chwi pob bendith yn eich eglwysi gwahannol ac yng Ngytun.
Yn
ddiffuant,
J.Roger
Roberts
We
are a worldwide denomination, with a presence in all six continents and
most
countries of the world, e.g. a church in
We
are known by two alternative titles - Anglican referring to our English
roots
and Episcopal referring to our form of government (Episcopal is the
name used
for our denomination in
In
polity and liturgy, we claim to be both Catholic and Reformed sometimes
described, eg by Greek Orthodox as "bridge Church" able to reach out
in friendship to opposite theological positions. This can be both an
advantage
and a disadvantage (because huge varieties exist within our Church,
ranging
from neo-Paisleyite to neo-Papist). Comprehensiveness could therefore
be
described as the curse of Anglicanism.
Core
beliefs can nevertheless be summed up in so-called Lambeth
Quadrilateral
(statement approved by
Lambeth
Conference of our bishops worldwide in l888). It has four Articles, l)
The Holy
Scriptures of Old and New Testaments, 2) The Apostles' and Nicene
Creeds, 3)
The two Sacraments of Baptism and Eucharist, 4) The historic
episcopate.
All
sorts of riders could be added to the above bare outline, eg we also
read the
Apocrypha in public
worship, some of us believe in seven Sacraments
(Marriage, Ordination,
Penance, Unction, Confirmation
as
well as the two instituted by Christ Himself) and episcopacy is a still
unresolved problem in unity
negotiations.
Re
the local situation n
organisationally from the C of E to become an independent
Province of the worldwide
Communion.
is
organised into 6 dioceses, 4 of which are of very ancient
pre-Reformation
origin, eg
Rydym
yn Eglwys fyd-eang yn bresennol yn y chwe cyfandir ac yn y mwyafrif o
wledydd y
byd e.e. Fel yr Eglwys yn Ne Georgia yn yr Antarctig a'r gynulleidfa
honno yn
Saudi Arabia (ond dim adeilad ganddynt) sy'n cyfarfod yn y ddirgel. Amcangyfrifir ein haelodaeth oddeutu 70 miliwn.
Fe'n
hadnabyddir dan ddau enw- Anglicaniaid ar bwys ein gwreiddiau Seisnig,
a'n bod
yn Esgobol oherwydd natur ein Ilywodraeth eglwysig (wrth yr enw
"Esgobol" yr adnabyddir ein Heglwys yn Nhaleithiau Gogledd Amerig, yn
yr Alban, ym Mrasil, yn yr Aifft ac yn Rwanda).Ceir enwau brodorol mewn
rhai
gwledydd e.e. Gelwir Anglicaniaid Siapan yn "Nippon Sei Ko
Kwai"(Eglwys Santaidd Gatholig Siapan). Datblygodd y Gymundeb
Anglicanaidd
fyd-eang fel canlyniad i ymddroddiad
Cymdeithasau
Cenhadol o'r Ddeunawfed ganrif ymlaen, yn benedol yn yr
Ymerodraeth Brydeinig, ond hefyd y tu hwnt i'w ffiniau ee. Ceir
Eglwysi brodorol ym Mosambique a Madagasgar.
Ar
bwys ei Ilywodraetj eglwysig a'i Litwrgi honnwn fod ein Heglwys yn
Gatholig ym
ogystal a Diwygiedig, y math ar Eglwys a ddisgrifir gan Eglwys
Uniongred Groeg
fel "eglwys sy'n bont" ac yn sgil hynny gall estyn deheulaw
cyfeillgarwch at bobl sy'n coleddu daliadau diwynyddol gwahanol. Gall hyn fod yn fantais ac anfantais (oherwydd
gwahaniaeth dybryd
mewn safbwyntiau ee o "Neo-Paisleyite" i "neo-Papist").
Ar y Ilaw arall gall eangfrydedd oddi mewn i
Anglicaniaeth
fod yn felltith.
Ceir
crynhodeb o ddaliadau Anglicaniaeth yn yr hyn a
elwir
"Lambeth Quadrilateral" (datganiad a arddelwyd yng Nghynhadledd
Lambeth l888 gan yr Esbogion o bedwar ban byd). Mae'r
datganiad ym pwysleisio pwysigrwydd y pedair Erthygl a ganlyn. l) Yr Ysgrythurau Santaidd yn cynnwys y ddau
Destament. 2) Credoau Nicea a'r Apostolion 3) Y
ddau Sacrament Y Bedydd
Santaidd a'r Cymun Bendigaid. 4) Yr
Esgobaeth
hanesyddol. Ar ben hyn, gellir atodi daliadau eraill at yr
uchod, ee
Addefwn
ddarllen yr Apocryffa mewn addoliad cyhoeddus, tra y cydnebydd eraill y
saith
Sacrament: Priodas, Ordinasiwn, Penyd, Eneinio, Bedydd Esgob yn ogystal
a'r
ddau arall a sefydlwyd gan Grist Ei Hun. Deil
"Esgobyddiaeth" yn faen tramgwydd mewn cylchoedd uno'r Eglwysi.
Parthed
y setyljla yng Nghymru, datgysylltwyd yr Eglwys Anglicanaidd
a'i dadwaddoli ym l920 ac oherwydd hynny daeth yn annibynnol ar Eglwys
Loegr
a'r goron a'i gwneud yn Dalaith annibynnol o'r Gymundeb Anglicanaidd. Tretnwyd yr Eglwys yng
Nghymru yn chwe Esgobaeth, pedair ohonynt yn perthyn i'r cyfnod cyn y
Diwygiad
Protestannaidd ee Setydlwyd Esgobaeth Bangor gan Deiniol Sant yn 546 OC
ac ar
bwys hynny hawlia'r ffaith mai hi yw'r Esgobaeth hynat ym Mhrydain. y mae olyniaeth tel hyn yn bwysig i awn i ni fel
Eglwys.
Etholir (nid apwyntio) un o'r chwe Esgob i
swydd
Archesgob y
Dalaith. Archesgob presennol y
Dalaith yw Esgob cyfredol
Mynwy, Ddr Rowan Williams. Rhennir pob
Esgobaeth
yn Archddiaconiaethau a dosrennir rheini hefyd i Ddeoniaethau
Gwlad casgliad o blwyfi. A
dychwelyd i'r cynfod cyn y Datgyslltiad, y mae pob
modfedd o Gymru yn gorwedd
oddi fewn i dalgylch plwyf Anglicanaidd, sefyllfa a'n galluoga i
fugeilio i bob
plwyfolyn, boed yn aelod o'r Eglwys neu beidio. Wedi dweud hynny,
teimlwn yn
ddig wrth gael ein galw yn Eglwys Loegr yng
Nghymru. I'r gwrthwyneb, 'rydym yn Eglwys
genedlaethol sy'n gwbl ddwyieithog
yn ein Litwrgiau ac yn ein datganiadau.
This
is a 3-4 bedroom house in Penrhynside. It is known to be a house where
Christians live and young people meet for prayer and worship. It is the
basis
of the Christian witness in the village. It has a large meeting room
and two
smaller ones and these are used primarily for prayer and worship by
young
people. This year over 40 (between l5-40 years old) from across the
area have
been meeting regularly on a Sunday evening for their own fellowship,
Word and
Worship. The residents of the house are committed to this ministry -
there is a
mid-week Bible study also.
NO
The
House is a full member of Cytûn, and under the umbrella of the local
church, is
overseen by a group of people being a wide representation from local
churches.
Residents of Mission House are expected to:
Have full or part-time paid employment or be
in
College.
Live lives honouring to God
as a Christian witness in the village.
Facilitate and be committed to the young
people's
ministry (called l5+).
Be committed to their own church in the local
area –
Be accountable to the Management Group.
Have a sense of calling from God to explore
areas of
their own Christian ministry.
There
are ministry opportunities in the village, with visiting, helping with
the
youth club, children's work, baby sitting service, music and friendship
evangelism in the two pubs, leadership with
l5+,
supporting local churches in their ministries. For more information
contact Rev
Tim Hall.
Tŷ yw'r uchod lie y trig Cristnogion ymroddedig a
man
cyfarfod i bob! ifanc gyfarfod i addoli a
gweddio. Mae eisoes yn sylfaen i dystiolaeth dros
Grist yn y pentref.
Fe
gynnwys 3-4 ystafell wely, ystafell gyfarfod eang a dwy o
ystafelloedd lIai a ddefnyddir gan amlaf ar gyfer addoliad a gweddi gan
yr
ifanc.
Eleni
mae dros ddeugain (40) o bersonau l5 eg i
ddeugain oed
o bob cwr o'e ardal wedi cyfarfod yma yn reolaidd ar nosweithiau Sui i
fyfyrio
ac addoli. Mae preswylwyr y Ty yn ymroddedig yn eu gweinidogaeth
-cynhelir un dosbarth Beiblaidd yn ystod yr
wythnos.
MAE
Y DENANTIAETH YN DDI-
Mae'r TŶ yn aelod Ilawn o
CYTÛN
(Llandudndo) a dan ofal eglwys leol yn cael ei oruchwilio gan aelodau
o'r
eglwysi lleol.
Disgwylir
i breswylwyr y Tŷ -
Fod
yn gyflogedig Ilawn amser/ran-amser neu mewn coleg
Byw
eu bywyd gan ddangos clod i Dduw a bod yn dyst Cristnogol a fewn y
gymuned
Ymrwymo
i weinidogaeth yr ifanc - (gelwir yn l5+)
Ymroddedig
i'w heglwys yn Ileol
Fod
ag ymdeimlad ddwfn o alwad gan Dduw ac i
geisio
dyfnhau gweinidogaeth bersonol
Fod
yn atebol i'r GrWp GweinyddolMae cyfleoedd gwweinidogaethu yn y gymuned
drwy
roddi cymorth gyda'r clwb ieuenctid, gwaith gyda phlant, ymweld,
gwarchodwr
babanod, efengylu mewn dwy dafarn, arweinyddiaeth gyda l5+ a chefnogi
eglwysi
Ileol yn eu gweinidogaeth.
-
Mwy o
wybodaeth - Parch Tim Hall.
At
his last preaching service for the Welsh Church/Eglwysi Unedig Cymraeg
in July
Cytûn representatives passed on to him our grateful thanks for all he
has done
for Cytûn in Llandudno, and our good wishes in his retirement, after so
many
months of ill-health since his accident.
Yng
"nghyfarfol gollwng". y
Parch E R Lloyd Jones yn Seilo mis diwethaf cyflwynwyd rhodd iddo ar
ran Cytûn,
gan ddiolch iddo am ei tewnbwn a'i sel dros ein cangen am nifer o
flynyddoedd a
dymuno ymddeoliad hapus a gwellhad buan o'i anhwylder.
Dear
Fellow Christian,
When
the Good Friday procession of Witness made its way down
and
joined us. Instead of the busy traffic, a
procession of
people following a Cross. Christian
people. Christians from all the denominations
united in witness, proclaiming
faith in a crucified
and
risen Messiah.
The
route was
thoroughfare.
Witnessing
and advertising are different, but they have much in common. When a car
is being
advertised on TV, it is presented in its most
attractive features. No one would
use a vehicle that was constantly breaking down or breaking up to
advertise the
brand. The Good Friday procession was an advertisement for
Christianity, as
well as being a reminder to the onlookers and shoppers of the
sacredness of the
day. The procession was a success because a lot of Christians did it together.
There was an element of wholeness there. The division of
Christianity,
of which the several church buildings across the town so constantly
remind us,
is a counter witness. The car that is being advertised has already
broken up.
But by doing things together we can go some way to reverse this
corrosive impression. The procession was a witness not only to the
bystanders, but
also to ourselves. If
we want
people to join the procession of Christ's People in life, to join the
Christian
Church. Then we must present ourselves as much united in action
as we
possibly can. Actions speak louder than words. The words of our various
denominational formularies differ still; but if our actions
are ever more united, our
witness will be
more vigorously made.
And
the
and
by enemies on all sides. Things are said about Christ and the Church
which, if
said about Islam,
would cause a fatwa or holy war instantly to be
declared. But we go along
with it, heads bowed.
Partly
because we know that Christianity has always been and always will be
persecuted
- 'the
blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church '; partly because we have
Christ's promise that He
will be with us till the end of time, so we can
be ultimately confident in
our faith; but partly because we have been so marginalized by
our
consumer and materialistic society that, feeling somewhat second class,
we keep
our heads down, we take
'Do
not be afraid; I am with you'.
The message rings out loud and clear in both
Testaments of our
Sacred
Scriptures. We must be
prepared to raise our heads above the
parapet. Only so will people
join us. For it was in
will only see and join us if we are prominently
visible where they
themselves are.
It
is wonderful to see the witness being given by the Welsh churches of
the town
as they strive to
come together to testify to the unity of their
Christian faith. And what
has happened? People have noticed. numbers
are growing
and a sense of excitement is everywhere.
Our
Good Friday witness was a witness to ourselves as well as to the
onlookers. May
we be so united in our witness and so confident in our faith that the
everyday
procession of God's People may be continually swelled - to the glory of
our
great God and Saviour Jesus Christ and to the benefit of our beloved
Church.
God
bless you.
Fr
Antony Jones
Annwyl
Gyd Gristion,
Pan
oedd gorymdaith y Tystiolaethu ar ei ffordd ar hyd Stryd Mostyn Ddydd
Gwener y
Groglith, roedd yn bleser gweld gwylwyr chwilfrydig yn troi'n aelodau
brwd o'r
orymdaith, fel gadawai llawer ohonynt y palmant ac ymuno gyda ni. Yn lle traffig prysur, gorymdaith o bobl yn dilyn Croes.
Pobl Crist. Cristnogion o bob enwad wedi’u huno mewn tystiolaeth, yn
datgan
ffydd mewn Meseia wedi'i
groeshoelio ac wedi atgyfodi.
Stryd
Mostyn oedd y llwybr. Y prif stryd, nid unrhyw stryd
eilradd yn y dref.
Mae
tystiolaethu a hysbysebu’n ddau beth gwahanol, er bod ganddynt
lawer yn gyffredin. Pan fo car yn cael ei hysbysebu ar y teledu,
ei nodweddion gorau sy'n cael eu cyflwyno. Does
neb yn
defnyddio car sy'n torri lawr i'w hysbysebu. Hysbyseb
ar gyfer Cristnogaeth oedd Gorymdaith Dydd Gwener y Groglith yn
ogystalag
atgoffa'r gwylwyr a siopwyr o sancteiddrwydd y diwrnod.
Roedd
yr orymdaith yn llwyddiant oherwydd bod llawer o Gristnogion yno gyda’u
gilydd.
Roedd elfen o undod yno. Mae rhwyg
Cristnogaeth, y mae'r gwahanol adeiladau eglwysig ar draws y dref yn ein
hatgoffa ohono'n barhaus, yn wrth dystiolaeth. Mae'r car sy'n
cael ei hysbysebu wedi torri’n barod. Ond,
wrth wneud
pethau gyda’n gilydd gallwn symud beth o'r ffordd i wrth-droi'r
argraff
ddifäol hon. Roedd yr orymdaith yn dystiolaeth nid yn unig i'r rhai
oedd yno’n
gwylio ond he.fyd i ni’n hunain. Os ydym am i bobl ymuno â
gorymdaith
Pobl Crist mewn bywyd, rhaid i ni
gyflwyno'n hunain yn
unedig gymaint ag sy'n bosibl. Actions speak louder than words. Mae geiriau gwasanaethau ein hamrywiol enwadau yn
wahanol o hyd,
ond, os oes mwy o undod yn ein gweithredoedd bydd ein tystiolaeth yn
fwy cadam
byth.
Ac mae syndrom Stryd Mostyn yn bwysig hefyd. Mae
Cristnogaeth
dan fygythiad byth a beunydd gan y
cyfiyngau a chan elynion ar bob ochr. Dywedir pethau
am Grist a'r Eglwys, petai
rhywun yn eu dweud am Islam, fyddai'n achosi galw fatwa neu ryfel
sanctaidd. Ond rydym yn dal i wrando, a'n pennau'n
isel. Yn rhannol
oherwydd ein bod yn gwybod y cafodd Cristnogaeth, ac y bydd yn dal i
gael, ei
erlyn –‘gwaed y merthyron yw had yr Eglwys’, yn rhannol
oherwydd fod
gennym addewid Crist i fod gyda nid hyd ddiwedd amser a gallwn, felly,
fod yn
gwbl hyderus yn ein ffydd, ond yn rhannol oherwydd ein bod ar gyrion
ein
cymdeithas faterol ac yn teimlo’n eilradd ac yn cadw ein pennau'n isel,
oherwydd hynny, gorymdeithiwn ar hyd Stlyd Madoc yn hytrach nag ar hyd
Stlyd
Mostyn.
‘Nac ofnwch, yr wyf i gyda chwi’ Seinia'r neges yn uchel ac
yn glir yn nau Destament ein Hysgrythurau Sanctaidd. Rhaid i ni
fod yn barod i godi'n pennau uwchben y wal. Dim ond wedyn fydd pobl yn
ymuno a ni. Ohcrwydd
yn Stryd Mostyn yr oedd
mwyafrif o'r bobl. Fydd y byd anghrediniol ddim yn ein gweld nac
yn
ymuno ani os na fyddwn i’n gweld ym mhle
maent hwy.
Bendigedig yw gweld tystiolaeth eglwysi Cymraeg y dref wrth iddynt
ymdrechu i
ddod at eu gilydd i dystiolaethu i undod eu ffydd Gristnogol. A beth sydd wedi digwydd? Mae pobl wedi sylwi,
mae'r
niferoedd yn tyfu ac mae teimlad o gynnwrf
ym mhob
man. Tystiolaethu i ni'n hunain yn ogystal a'r
gwylwyr oedd,
ein tystiolaeth Dydd Gwener Groglith. Boed i ni
fod, yn un yn ein tystiolaeth ac mor hyderus yn ein ffydd fel bod
gorymdaith
pob dydd Pobl Duw'n cynyddu'n barhaus - er gogonianr i'n Duw mawr a'n
Iachawdwr
Iesu
Grist ac er lIes ein hannwyl Eglwys.
Bendith
Duw arnoch,
Tad
We
have all been most interested and concerned in the brave venture which
has been
taking place over the last year or so, in the joining together of the
different
Welsh denominations for Sunday worship and other activities too. A
major
decision has been taken now to amalgamate all their activities onto two
sites,
Y Tabernacl and Seilo from January 2003. Both these chapels have been
listed
for architectural and historical reasons. Their hope is that eventually
they
will meet in one united chapel building. Bethania, Craig-y-Don and
Peniel,
Deganwy continue to be independent at present. They are assured of our
thoughts
and prayers as they move forward boldly into the future, united in the
mission
of the
Yr
ydym oll yn cymeryd diddordeb yn yr arbrawf arloesol sydd yn digwydd o
blith yr
Eglwysi Cymraeg, Llandudno, ers y flwyddyn 2000 maent yn cyd-addoli ar
y SuI ac
yn cymdeithasu â'u gilydd yn ystod yr wythnos. Y
gobaith yw y
byddent o'r flwyddyn 2003 yn canolbwyntio eu haddoliad a'u
gwithgareddau
cymdeithasol mewn dwy Eglwys, sef Y Tabernacl a Seilo. Mae'r
ddwy Eglwys
yma am resymau hanesyddol a pensaerniol wedi eu rhestsru gan CADWY
gobaith i'r
dyfodol yw y byddent yn cyfarfod mewn un
Eglwys yn
unig. Deil Bethania,Craig-y-Don a Peniel,
Deganwy yn
annibynol ar hyn o bryd. Maent yn sicr yn ein
meddyliau a'n
gweddiau yn yr arbrawf anturus yma gogyfer a'u cenhadaeth dros Deyrnas
Crist.
A
forum has been set up, comprising representatives of the local Council,
Social
Services, Shelter Cymru and the Cytûn churches to share concerns
regarding this
problem in Conwy county. The first meeting
was held in
early March and future forums are planned which should provide good
opportunities for the church to keep informed, and to offer help and
support.
Oherwydd
y broblem yma o fewn ffiniau Sir Conwy mae fforwm wedi ei sefydlu gan
gynnwys
cynrychiolaeth o'r canlynol: YCyngor lleol, Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol,
‘Shelter’ Cymru a Cytûn i drafod sut i’w gwynebu, Cyfarfu eisoes ym mis
Mawrth
bydd rhagor o gyfarfodydd i ddilyn a rydd gyfle i’r Eglwysi gael mwy o
wybodaeth a chynnig cefnogaeth a chymorth, Bwriad Cyngor Conwy yw
llunio
strategaeth ar gyfer y di-gartref i gyd-ymffurfio â'r Ddeddf y
Di-Gartref a
ddaeth i rym ym mis Mehefin 2002. Mae problemau
dybryd ar hyn
o bryd; er enghraifft nid oes cysgodfa nos rhwng Rhyl a
We
are very sorry to hear that Rev Peter Taylor has found it necessary to
retire
early from the Llanrhos parish because ofhis ill health. We understand
that he
and his wife Ruth will be moving to Rhyl. We can feel for them just
now, and
I'm sure all our thoughts and prayers will be with them as they leave
friends
and colleagues. May God strengthen and bless them greatly as they
adjust to new
and different areas of service for the
.
It
was a joy to welcome Rev John Harvey, Priest in Charge of the
our
recent Cytûn Council meeting. He is no stranger to the area having been
a pupil
at Ysgol John
Bright. We wish him, and his wife, every blessing in
their new ministry here
amongst us.
Drwg
oedd gennym ddeall bod y Parch Peter Taylor yn ymddeol yn gynnar o
blwyf Llanrhos oherwydd afiechyd. Deallwn y bydd el a’i
briod yn
cartrelu yn Y Rhyl, dymunwn yn dda iddynt i’r dyfodol. Boed nerth a chadernid Duw gyda hwynt a’u bendithio wrth
iddynt
geisio ymgynefino mewn ardal newydd.
Hyfryd
oedd croesawu y Parch John Harvey, Person â chyfrifoldeb am Eglwys
plwyf
Llangystennin i
gyfarfod o Cytûn. Nid yw yn
ddiarth i’r ardal gan ei lod yn
gyn-ddisgybl o Ysgol John Bright.
Dymunwn
y gorau iddo el a’i briod tra yn gweinidogaethu yn ein plith.
Seren
Cymru –
This Welsh Baptist National Newspaper contained a leading article on
the
retirement
of
Parch Idwal Wynne Jones, with a photograph of our President, Father
Antony
Jones presenting him
with a farewell gift from Cytûn on the occasion
of the last Lenten Service
which he led at Y Tabernacl.
Seren
Cymru –Ym mhapur wythnosol y
Bedyddwyr Cymraeg yr oedd cyfeiriad at ymadawiad y Parch
ldwal Jones ynghyd a llun ohono yn cael ei
gyflwyno ag anrheg ar ei
ymadawiad gan ein Llywydd, Y
Tad
Tabernacl.
e-mail addresses – A number of people nowadays are
corresponding by e-mail. It is a quick, cheap
and
easy method of sending messages - if you have the necessary equipment
of
course. If you have an
e-mail address, and are happy for people to contact
you, will you pass it on
to Barbara Davies for
inclusion in a future newsletter, perhaps. Bardavies@tesco.net
Cyfeiriadau
e-bost –
Gyda nifer yn llythyru y dyddiau yma drwy’r e-bost pe hoffech gysylltu
â
Barbara
Davies
buasai hi yn hapus i’w gynnwys mewn rhifyn o'r cylchlythyr. Bardavies@tesco.net
Cytûn
Brochure –
Each spring a leaflet is produced giving the position of the various
churches
in the
area
and the times of their Services. This is taken out by people from
churches to
hotels, boarding
houses,
and places of interest to visitors. This year an attempt has been made
to
produce a more
modem
and interesting leaflet of information. These have been printed and
delivered
throughout the
area.
They have been very well received for they are colourful, eye-catching,
and of
better quality.
When
you are out and about locally do keep an eye open for them!
Pamffledyn
Cytûn –
Mae’r pamfjledyn uchod eisoes wedi ei gyhoeddi a'i ddosbarthu i
westsai,
lletyau
ac
mannau eraill sy’n denu ymwelwyr o lewn y fro. Eleni maent ar eu newydd
wedd,
yn lliwgar, yn
taro’r
llygad a phroffesiynol tu hwnt ac o’r salon orau.
Dear
Fellow Christian,
I
heard it said from every direction that the atmospbere during the Week
of
Prayer for Christian Unity was wonderful. And indeed it was. I would
like to thank
all those who took part in the various services (very much including
those who
provided the welcome refreshments after them) for helping to create and
perpetuate that atmosphere. Among the Churches and Chapels here in
Llandudno,
the spirit of co-operation and Christian Charity must be second to none.
It
was a happy coincidence that the final service of the series was held
at
Tabernacl, the Chapel of the Rev. Idwal Jones. As you know, he is soon
to leave
us and continue his ministry in his native Angelsey. It was good to
have the
opportunity of thanking him for all the good work he has done for the
people of
Llandudno over the past twenty-three years. We wish him well and every
blessing.
At
the recent Cytûn Council Meeting the second of our Denominational
Presentations
was given. You will remember that we decided that each Council Meeting
would be
preceded by a theological input by one of the denominations, thereby
turning
the Council Meeting from being purely business into one that would
further the
cause of' ecumenism by helping us all to understand one another better.
This
time it was given by the Baptists, and jointly presented by Jean Brown
and
Chris Griffiths. A synopsis of what was said is printed below. It was
profoundly interesting. And as a Catholic, presumably on the far side
Of
the Christian spectrum from the Baptists, I found it fascinating. It
showed
that on this fundamental issue there is little in our mutual
understanding of
the Sacrament of Baptism that separates us. It proved the value of
these
Denominational Presentations.
At
that same Council Meeting, approval was given to an idea that came up
in the
Cytûn Fraternal of Clergy - an annual joint service for the renewal of
marriage
vows. As you may know, National Marriage Week, appropriately enough. is
the
week in which the feast of St Valentine falls. So we decided to hold
the
service on the final Sunday of this Week. This year it is 17 February,
and the
service will be at 4pm. It will be held in the church of the current
Cytûn
President; so this year it will be at Our Lady's. We decided to conduct
it
jointly - the Rev Jane Allen and myself.
We
live in an age when marriage is under terrible threat and strain, and
we must
do all we possibly can to support and strengthen the marriage
relationships
that exist within our parishes. We recognise that some marriages will
inevitably break down and for those involved that Church offers her
most tender
compassion, knowing only too well the pain and stress that accompanies
divorce.
But,
sadly, everybody's divorce weakens everybody else's marriage. We are
social
animals. We are subconsciously influenced at every turn by the
behaviour of our
neighbours. Because divorce is so easy today and so widespread, married
people
encountering difficulties in their relationships are more ready to head
for the
divorce courts than ever they would have been in days gone by when
divorce was
very
much
the exception.
The
service on 17 February is meant to offer support and encouragement to
those who
are striving to keep faithful to their marriage vows. It will be a
short and
happy celebration, followed by a miniature party. I don't expect a
crowded
church - these things take a long time to get established. But I hope
in five
to ten year's time it will be a significant event in the calendar of
our shared
Christian life here in
Llandudno.
God
bless you,
Fr
Antony Jones.
Annwyl
Gyd Gristion,
Clywais
o bob cyfeiriad fod yr awyrgylch yn ystod yr Wythnos Weddi dros Undod
Cristnogol
yn un arbennig iawn. Ac yn wir yr oedd. Hoffwn ddiolch i bawb a
gymerodd rhan
yn y gwahanol wasanaethau (gan gynnwys y rhai fu'n gyfrifol am
ddarparu'r
lluniaeth wedyn) am gyfrannu tuag at greu a pharhau'r awyrgylch hwn.
Mae'n siwr
fod yr ysbryd o gydweithio a Chariad Cristnogol ymysg Eglwysi a Chapeli
yma yn
Llandudno heb ei ail.
Cyd-digwyddiad
hapus oedd cynnal gwasanaeth olaf y gyfres yn Nhabernacl, Capel y Parch
Idwal
Jones. Fel y gwyddoch, bydd yn ein gadael cyn bo hir ac yn parhau ei
weinidogaeth
ar Ynys Mon. Braf oedd cael y cyfle i ddiolch iddo am ei holl waith da
dros
bobl Llandudno dros y tair blynedd ar hugain diwethaf Dymunwn yn dda
iddo a
phob bendith.
Cyflwynwyd
yr ail o'n Cynf1wyniadau Enwadol mewn Cyfarfod o Gyngor Cytûn yn
ddiweddar. Mi
gofiwch i ni benderfynu y rhagflaenir pob Cyfarfod o'r Cyngor gyda
mewnbwn
diwinyddol gan un o'r enwadau. Bydd hyn yn newid y Cyfarfod o fod yn
ddim ond
cyfarfod busnes i un fydd yn hyrwyddo achos eciwmeniaeth drwy ein
galluogi i
ddeall ein gilydd yn well. Tro y Bedyddwyr oedd hi y tro hwn gyda
chyflwyniad
ar y cyd gan Jean Brown a Chris Griffiths. Ceir crynodeb ohono yn nes
ymlaen yn
y cylchlythyr hwn. Roedd yn ddiddorol dros ben. Fel Catholigwr, sydd
mae'n
debyg ar ochr bellaf y spectwm Crisnogol o'r. Bedyddwyr, cefais y
cyflwyniad yn
ddiddorol dros ben. Dangoswyd, ar y mater elfenol hwn, nad oes llawr
sylfaenol
yn ein gwahanu yn ein cyd-deall o'r Sagrafen Bedydd. Profodd byn wertb
y
Cyflwyniadau Enwadol.
Yn yr un
Cyfarfod o'r
Cyngor, rhoddwyd cymeradwyaeth i syniad a godwyd ym Mrawdoliaeth
Gwenidogion
Cytûn: gwasanaeth blynyddol ar y cyd ar gyfer adnewyddu addunedau
priodas.
Fel y gwyddoch, mae Wythnos Cenedlaethol Priodas, yn addas iawn, yn
wythnos
sy'n cynnwys Gŵyl Sant
Ffolant. Felly, mae'n fwriad gennym gynnal gwasanaeth ar Sul olaf yr
Wythnos
honno. Y flwyddyn hon 17 Chwefror yw'r dyddiad a chynhelir y gwasanaeth
am
4:00pm. Fe'i cynhelir yn eglwys y Llywydd
Cytûn
presennol; felly, eleni, fe'i cynhelir yn Ein Harglwyddes. Penderfynwyd
ei gynnal
ar y cyd – Y Parch Jane Allen a minnau.
Y
Rydym yn byw mewn oes pan fo priodas o dan fygythiad a straen. Rhaid i
ni i gyd
wneud popeth yn ein gallu i gynnal a chryfhau'r priodasau sy'n bodoli o
fewn
ein plwyfi. Cydnabyddir y bydd rhai priodasau, yn anochel, yn torri ac
i'r
rheini mae'r Eglwys yn estyn ei thoSturi eithaf ac yn deall yn iawn y
boen a'r
straen sy'n dod o ysgaru.
Ond,
yn anffodus mae pob ysgariad yn gwanhau priodas pawb arall. Rydym yn
anifeiliaid cymdeithasol. Mae ymddygiad ein cymdogion yn dylanwadu
arnom yn
ddiarwybod o bob cyfeiriad. Gan fod ysgaru ' n hawdd heddiw ac ymhob
man, mae
pobl briod sy'n wynebu anawsterau yn eu perthynas yn debycach o droi at
y
llysoedd ysgaru nag erioed o'r blaen, pan oedd ysgaru'n eithriad.
Pwrpas
y gwasanaeth ar 17 Chwefror yw cynnig cefnogaeth Id ac anogaeth i'r
sawl sy'n
ymdrechu i gadw'n ffyddlon Pwrpas y gwasanaeth ar 17 Chwefror yw cynnig
cefnogaeth an anogaeth i'r sawl sy'n ymdrechu i gadw'n fyddlon i'w
haddunedau
priodas. Bydd yn fyr a llawen ac yn cael ei ddilyn gan barti bach. Nid
wyf yn
disgwyl eglwys 1awn-bydd yn cymryd dipyn o amser i sefydlu pethau. Ond,
gobeithiaf
o fewn pump i ddeng mlynedd, y bydd hwn yn achlysur arwyddocaol yng
nghalendr
ein bywyd Cristionogol yr ydym yn ei rannu yma yn Llandudno.
Pob
bendith,
Tad
Antony Jones.
As
Baptists, we have a Dedication Service for Infants. The child is held
in our
Minister's arms and blessed and named, and received as a gift from God.
No
"God Parents", but the whole Church undertakes the responsibility of
helping to guide the youngster as he/she grows. We Also sustain the
family by
our prayers and try to help them in any way we can.
Baptists
believe that Full Immersion signifies the following:
When
Jesus Himself was baptised by John in the Jordon, He gave us all an
example and
we must
follow
His lead of Full Immersion. We believe that as we enter the water we
signify that
we identify with Him in His death, burial, and resurrection. We enter
the water
in our "dirty, sinful state", are washed clean by our immersion and
rise out of the water as a "New creation". Our old life has been
washed away and a new life, following the Lord has begun. After baptism
we are
received into Church Membership, usually at the next Communion Service,
and we
receive the hand of fellowship. At our Communion Services, we invite
all who
love the Lord and who have Him as their Saviour, to join us around His
table
and
share in His Fellowship.
Administration
and Financial Arrangements
a)
Both the Baptist Union of Wales and the Baptist Union in Great Britain
are
non-conformist denominations.
b)
Within the four main Welsh language con-conformist denominations, it is
generally accepted that the Baptist Union of Wales and the Union of
Welsh
Independents share the greatest common beliefs and practices, the main
difference is that the Baptists believe totally in the act of baptism.
These
two
denominations
are to a high degree self-financing at local Church or Circuit level.
The
Churches are responsible for the appointment, payment of stipends,
expenses,
etc, of their own Ministers. The local Church Trustees also own the
Church and
any other associated buildings and non domestic contents.
Coincidentally
within Wales the General Secretaries and their offices are both
situated in
Swansea.
c)
The other two denominations, the Presbyterian Church of Wales and the
Methodist
Church are far less locally autonomous than the Baptists and the
Independents.
2.
The
Welsh and English 'set
up' in
a)
In theory, locally there is no link between the Welsh language Baptists
(y
Tabernacle, Llandudno)
and
the English counterparts (Zion, Craig y Don). However, we hasten to add
that
the both congregations have excellent relations with each other. The
only
'official' common link we share is the same British Missionary Society,
North
and West Wales co-ordinator.
b)
Currently, there are 484 Churches affiliated to the Baptist Union of
Wales.
There are 32 English
language
Churches in the anglicised area of Pembrokeshire (little England beyond
Wales).
Quite incredibly, there are 207 so called Welsh language churches who
worship
through the medium of the English language.
c)
Also in Wales there are English Baptist Churches affiliated o the
Baptist Union
of Great Britain. In the North West area of Wales (The Reverend Fred
Halstead
is the current President), there are 11 churches, in the Gwent area 44,
East
Glamorgan area 82 and in the West Wales area 37, making a total of 174
churches.
Chris
Griffiths/Jean Brown
Cynhaliwn
Wasanaeth o Ymgysegriad ar gyfer babanod, cymer y gweinidog y baban yn
ei
freichiau gan ei fendithio ei enwi a' i dderbyn fel rhodd gan Dduw ,Nid
oes
tadau/famau bedydd fel y cyfryw, cymer yr holl eglwys y cyfrifoldeb o
gynorthwyo y bychan drwy'r blynyddoedd cyntaf. Mae'r eglwys yn ogystal
yn
cynna1 a cefnogi y teu1u gyda 'u gweddiau gan ???? cymorth mewn unrhyw
ffordd
fel bo'r galw.
Ein
cred yw bod 'trochiad llawn ' yn arwyddocaol o'r canlynol:
Pan
fedyddiwyd yr lesu gan loan yn yr Iorddonen fe rydd esiampl inni y
dylem ddilyn
gyda
'trochiad
llawn'. Ein cred
yw ein bod drwy hyn yn uniaethu a'r lesu yn ei farwolaeth, ei
gladdedigaeth a'i
atgyfodiad. Awn i'r dŵr yn ein cyflwr peç hadurus, fe'n golchir yn
lân drwy ein trochiad a
chodi o'r dŵr
yn 'greadigaeth newydd' Yr ydym yn
cychwyn ar fywyd newydd gan ddilyn ein Harglwydd.
Yn
dilyn y bedydd fe'n derbynir mewn Gwasaaeth Cymun yn aelodau l1awn o'r
Eglwys a
derbyniwn wahoddiad y frawdoliaeth. Yn ystod y Gwasaanaeth Cymun
estynwn
wahoddiad i bawb
a
gred yn yr Arglwydd a'i dderbyn yn Waredwr i ymgynnull gyda ni i gymuno.
Jean
Brown
Cyflwyniad
Enwadol – Y BEDYDDWYR gan Chris Griffiths
Gweinyddiaeth
a Trefniadau Ariannol
1.
Enwad/au
Ymneilltuol
a)
Enwadau ymneilltuol yw Undeb Bedyddwyr Cymru
ac Undeb Bedyddwyr prydain Fawr
b)
Undeb Bedyddwyr Cymru ac Undeb Annibynwyr
Cymru
Mae'r
ddau enwad uchod yn cydrannu mwy o gredoau cyffi'edin na'r
Presbyteriaid a'r
Methodistiaid. Y gwahaniaeth mwyaf rhyngddynt yw cred lwyr y Bedyddwyr
yn y
weithred o fedydd. i raddau helaeth mae'r ddwy Undeb yn hunan-gynhaliol
yn
ariannol ar lefel Eglwys a Cylchdaith. Yr Eglwysi sydd a'r cyfrifoldeb
o
benodi, cyflogau a chostau eu gweinidogion. Y mddiriedolwyr yr Eglwysi
sydd
berchen arnynt yn ogystal ac adeiladau arall ynghlwm â hwynt ynghyd a'r
dodrefn. Lleolir y swyddfa gyffredinol a'r swyddogion yn Abertawe.
c)
Nid yw'r ddau enwad arall ymneilltuol â Chymaint o huanlywodraeth.
2.
Y
strwythur yng Nghymru
a)
Mae cyd-weithio cyfeillgar cydrhwng Eglwys y Tabemacl ac Eglwys Seion,
Craig y
Don ond nid oes cysylltiad swyddogol. Yr unig ddolen gyswllt swyddogol
yw eu
bod yn cyd-rannu Cyd-Gysyl1tydd dros Ogledd Cymru a'r Gorllewin i'r
Gymdeithas
Genhadol Frytanaidd.
b)
Perthyn 484 o Eglwysi ar hyn o bryd i Undeb Bedyddwyr Cymru. Mae 32
Eglwysi
Saesneg eu hiaith ym Mhenfro. Coeliwch neu beidio mae 207 o Eglwysi
Cymraeg yn
addoli trwy gyfrwng Saesneg.
c) Mae
rhai o Eglwysi Saesneg y Bedyddwyr yn Gysyl1tiedig ac Undeb Bedyddwyr
prydain
Fawr. Yng Ngogledd Orllewin Cymru mae 11 o Eglwysi, (y Parchedig Fred
Ha1stead
yw'r Llywydd presennol). 44 yng Ngwent, 82 yn Nwynsin Morgannwg, a 37
yng
Ngorllewin Cymru.
Chris
Griffiths
Dear
Fellow Christian,
It
was my own fault. I landed myself in it. I have no one else to blame!
..It had
been my suggestion that the quarterly Cytûn Council meeting should
begin with
an explanation by one of the Churches of some
aspect
of that Chmch' s teaching that others find difficult to understand. As
I had
suggested it, so I was expected to start it.
The
Admin Meeting advised me to deal with the thorny question of why the
Catholic
Church will not permit Eucharistic hospitality, why she won't allow
members of
other Christian churches to share Holy Communion. And equally why she
won't
allow us Catholics to receive Holy Communion in Churches which are not
in full
communion with Rome.
I
approached the task before a full Cytûn Council with sweating palms and
a swarm
of butterflies in the pit of my stomach. To explain what the Admin
Meeting
wanted me to explain necessitated my saying things I would much rather
not have
said.
But
there again. that was the whole point of the exercise – that we may
come to
know one another more clearly. True ecumenism means being absolutely
honest
with one another. Only then will we come to understand one another more
deeply.
We will learn to be aware of where we are all coming from. But more
important
still. we will an gain from the insights of each Church. The Mystery of
Christ
Among Us is so enormous that no one has a monopoly of insight into the
meaning
and mystery of the Church. It is just charity and common sense to share
these
insights with one another.
My
sweating-palm reaction was typical of false ecumenism. If we
say to one
another only what we think the other person wants to hear, then we are
not
being true to ourselves or to the Church to which we belong. We see
this very
thing happen in most of om unity services. We search for the lowest
common
denominator so as not to upset anyone. As a result we make little
progress and
seldom arrive at the point
where
we know what the other Christian really believes, nor have the
opportunity of
seeing how the other believer approaches God in worship.
So
I said what I had to say at the Cytûn Council on 23 October. And as a
result I
got an email from our trusty Secretary, Mr Patrick Rohde, thanking me
for my
exposition and suggesting that I include it in my President's Letter,
so that a
wider audience could mare it. And if future contributors to the series
would
like to, then let their observations be published as well.
It
is a very painful experience for me and for my colleagues in the
Catholic
Priesthood to have to announce at weddings and funerals that those who
are not
members of the Roman Catholic Church cannot receive Holy Communion. It
is an
equally painful experience when we attend the services of Holy
Communion
in other Christian Communities and are not able to share the Sacrament
ourselves. But it is -not just the priests and people who feel this
pain; it
is the Catholic Church herself. And
she feels this pain perhaps more acutely than any other Church –
because
she sees herself as the Mother Church.
It
is a fact of history that the divisions within Christendom occurred
when
sections of the Church broke away from the Catholic Church and
established
themselves as independent entities. This is the Catholic Church's pain:
she
sees herself as Mother of an extended family where some of her children
have
gone their own way and left her alone.
If
you fail to understand this, you will never understand the heart of the
Catholic
Church. You will never understand how that heart beats, or, in today's
terms,
how Catholics tick. The Church sees herself as the original church –
and
indeed this is a fact of history, not a theological position.
The
Catholic Church readily agrees that the Refomation occurred because
there was
much in the Church that needed reform. But separation from the Mother
Church
was not the answer. It became a question at times of throwing the baby
out with
the bath water. It was a breakdown of that essential unity which
must
characterise the Chmch of Christ. The result of the Reformation was not
a
reformed Church but a divided and broken Church.
Holy
Communion, or The Mass as Catholics call it, is the central act
of
Christian worship. It is a Sacramental Sign. It is a
celebration
of Communion.
The
word comes from two Latin words, cum and unio and it
means union
with. Union with God, obviously. But also union with one another.
Holy communion is a sign of our union with God and it is a sign
that we are united in faith with one another.
When
the various Churches broke away from Rome, their unity with the
Catholic Church
was broken. The very fact that they separated from the Mother Church is
an
expression of this. While retaining much that pertained to the Catholic
Church,
such as the Scriptures and some of the Sacraments, they abandoned
various other
elements that the Catholic Church has always regarded as essential to
the
integrity of the Catholic Faith. Thus the Catholic Church can see
herself only
as in partial communion with the other Christian Churches.
And
this is simply why we cannot share Holy Communion. To do so would
express a
unity that does not in fact exist. The sign of the Sacrament
would be
compromised. It is not a stubbornness on the part of the Church; it is
a
fidelity to principle. And we are very sad about it.
The
exercise of these Denominational Presentations is not to try to convert
anyone
to anyone else's point of view. It is simply and importantly an effort
to help
us understand one another more profoundly. And as the saying goes, to
understand all is to forgive all. I think the ecumenical scene here in
Llandudno
is
very encouraging. In my thirty-five years as a priest. I have never had
the
pleasure of such warm and well-organised relationships between the
Churches.
Let us pray that we can go from strength to strength.
God
bless you,
Father
Antony Jones
Annwyl
Gyd Gristion,
Arnaf
i mae'r bai. Rwyf wedi gollwng fy hunan ynddi. Does gen i neb i 'w feio
ond fi
fy hun!
Fy
awgrym i oedd y dylai cyfarfod chwarterol Cyngor Cytûn ddechrau gydag
eglurhad
gan un o'r Eg1wysi ar ryw agwedd o ddysgeidiaeth yr Eg1wys honno mae
eraill yn
ei chael yn anodd i 'w deall. Gan mai fy awgrym i ydoedd, disgwylid i
mi fynd
yn gyntaf.
Cynghorodd
y pwyllgor Gweinyddol i mi ddelio gyda'r cwestiwn bachog paham nad yw'r
Eg1wys
Gatholig yn caniatáu lletygarwch Ewcharistaidd a phaham nad yw hi'n
caniatáu aelodau
o eg1wysi Cristnogol erai1l i rannu'r Cymun Sanctaidd. A hefyd paham
nad yw
hi'n fodlon ychwaith caniatáu i Gatholigion dderbyn Cymun Sanctaidd
eg1wysi
eraill nad ydynt mewn cymundeb llawn a Rhufain.
Wynebais
fy nhasg o flaen Cyngor lawn o Gytun gyda'm dwylo'n chwysu a'm bol yn
corddi.
Roedd eg1uro beth oedd y pwyllgor Gweinyddol wedi gofyn ohonof yn mynd
i'm
gorfodi i ddweud pethau fuasai 'n wel1 o lawer gen i beidio a'u dweud.
Ond
dyna fe, dyna bwynt y peth – i ni ddod i adnabod ein gi1ydd yn well.
Mae gwir
eciwmeniaeth yn golygu bod yn gwbl onest gyda'n gilydd. Dim ond wedyn y
deuwn i
adnabod ein gi1ydd yn well. Dysgwn i fod yn fwy ymwybodol o anghenion
ein
gi1ydd. Ond yn bwysicach byth, cawn fewnwelediad i bob Eg1wys. Mae
Dirgelwch y
Crist yn ein Mysg mor enfawr fel nad oes gan neb fonopoli ar
fewnwelediad
i ystyr a dirgelwch yr Eg1wys. Caredigrwydd a swynwyr cyffredin yw
rhannu'r
mewnweliadau hyn gyda'n gilydd.
Roedd
ymateb fy nwylo chwyslyd yn nodweddiadol o eciwmeniaeth ffug.
Nid ydym
yn driw i ni'n hunan nac i'r Eglwys yr ydym yn perthyn iddi os dywedwn
wrth ein
gilydd dim ond yr hyn y credwn mae'r llall eisiau 'I glywed. Gwelwn hyn
yn
digwydd ym mhob un o'n cyfarfodydd eciwmenaidd, bron. Chwiliwn
am
unrhyw beth cyffredin er mwyn peidio â chynhyrfu neb. O ganlyniad, does
dim
symud ymlaen ac anamal y cyrhaeddwn y pwynt owybod beth yw gwir gred y
Cristion
arall. Collir y cyfle o weldsut mae'r crediniwr arall yn nesau at Dduw
mewn
addoliad.
Felly,
dwedais fy nweud wrth Gyngor Cytûn ar 23 Hydref. O ganlyniad derbyniais
e-bost
oddi wrth ein Hysgrifennydd glew, Mr Patrick Rhode, yn dioich i mi am
fy
eglurhad yn awglymu fy mod yn ei gynnwys yn Llythyr y Llywydd, er mwyn
i
gynulleidfa changach elwa ohono. Petai cyfranwyr y dyfodol yn dymuno,
câi ei sylwadau
hwythau eu cyhoeddi hefyd.
Profiad
poenus i mi a'm cydweithwyr yn yr Offeiriadaeth Gatholig yw gorfod
cyhoeddi
mewn priodasau ac angladdau nad yw'n bosibl i bobl nad ydynt mewn
cymundeb
llawn â' r Eglwys Gatholig Rufeinig dderbyn y Cymun Sanctaidd. Mae'r un
mor
boenus i Gatholigion, pan yn bresennol yng ngwasanaethau'r Cymun
Sanctaidd mewn
Cymunedau Cristnogol fethu â rhannu yn y Sagrafen. Ond nid yr
offeiriadon a’r
bobl yn unig sy’n teimlo’r boen yma; ond yr Eglwys Gatholig ei hunan.
Efallai ei bod yn teimlo’r boen yn fwy nag unrhyw Eglwys arall –
oherwydd ei
bod yn gweld ei hun fely Fam Eglwys.
Mae
hi'n ffaith hanesyddol i'r rhwygiadau o fewn y Gwledydd Cred ddigwydd
wrth i
gmfanau o'r Eglwys dorri i ffwrdd o'r Eglwys Gatholig a sefydlu eu
hunain fel
cyrff annibynnol. Hwn yw ing yr Eglwys Gatholig: Mae hi'n gweld ei hun
fel Mam
i deulu estynedig ond bod rhai o'i phlant wedi mynd eu
ffordd
eu hunain a’i gadael hi ar ei phen ei hun.
Os
na fedrwch ddeall hyn, fyddwch byth yn deall ca1on yr Eglwys Gatholig.
Ddeallwch chi byth sut mae ei chalon yn curo, nac, yn nhermau heddiw,
beth sy'n
gyrru Catholigion. Mae'r Eglwys yn gweld ei hun fel yr eglwys
wreiddiol
– ac yn wir, fIaith hanesyddol yw i hwn nid safbwynt diwinyddol.
Mae'r
Eglwys Gatholig yn Cytûno i'r Chwi1dro Protestannaidd ddigwydd oherwydd
diffygion yn yr Eglwys. Roedd angen diwygiad. Ond nid yr ateb oedd
gwahanu oddi
wrth y Fam Eglwys. Daeth yn gwestiwn o daflu'r llo a chadw'y brych.
Roedd yn
doriad yn yr undod hanfodol sy'n nodwedd o Eglwys Crist. Canlyniad y
Chwyldro
Protestannaidd oedd nid Eglwys ddiwygiedig ond Eglwys ranedig wedi'i
thorri.
Y
Cymun Sanctaidd, neu'r Offeren fel mae Catholigion yn ei alw,
yw
gweithred ganolig addoliad Cristnogol. Mae'n Arwydd Sagrafennol.
Mae 'n
ddathliad o Gymundod.
Daw'r
gair o ddau air Lladin, cum ac unio – mae'n golygu uniad â.
Uniad
â Duw yn sicr – ond uniad gyda 'n gilydd hefyd. Mae'r
Cymun
Sanctaidd yn arwydd o'n uniad â Duw ac mae hefyd yn arwydd
ein
bod wedi uno mewn fIydd gyda'n gi1ydd.
Pan
dorrodd amryfal Eglwysi oddi wrth Rufain, torrwyd eu hundod â'r Eglwys
Gatholig. Mae'r ffaith eu bod wedi gwahanu oddi wrth y Fam Eglwys yn
fynegiant
o hyn. Tra'n cadw llawer sy'n perthyn i'r Eglwys Gatholig, megis yr
ysgrythurau
a rhai o'r Sagrafennau, go11yngwyd sawl elfen arall mae'r Eglwys
Gatholig yn eu
hystyried yn hanfodol i hanfod y Ffy'dd Gristnogol. Felly, gwêl yr
Eglwys
Gatholig ei hunan mewn cymundeb rhannol yn unig â’r Eglwysi Cristnogol
eraill.
A
dyna pam nad ydynt yn gallu rhannu'r Cymun Sanctaidd. Byddai gwneud
hytiny'n
mynegi uniad nad yw'n bod mewn gwirionedd. Byddai arwydd y Sagrafen dan
fygythiad. Nid ystyfnigrwydd ar ran yr Eglwys yw hyn ond ffyddlondeb
tuag at
egwyddor. Mae'n achos o dristwch mawr i ni.
Nid
pwrpas y Cyflwyniadau Rhyngeglwysig yw ceisio troi neb at safbwynt y
nall. Yn
syml ond yn bwysig, ymdrech yw'r Cyflwyniadau i'n cynorthwyo i ni ddod
i ddeall
ein gi1ydd yn wen. Yn ôl y dywediad – deall popeth yw maddau popeth.
Credaf
fod y sefynfa ecwmenaidd yma yn Llandudno yn ga1onogol iawn. Nid wyf
erioed yn
fy nhri deg pum mlynedd fel offeiriad wedi cael y pleser o brofi
perthynas mor
gynnes a threfnus rhwng yr Eg1wysi. Gadewch i ni wedd1o yr awn o nerth
i nerth.
Pob
bendith.
Tad
Antony Jones
Dear
Fellow Christian/Anwyl Gydgristion,
I
feel it is a great privilege to be serving you this year as President
of Cytûn,
Llandudno.
Teimlaf
ei fod yn fraint i'ch gwasanaethu'r flwyddyn yma fel Llywydd Cytûn,
Llandudno.
When
I came to Llandudno three and a half years ago, I was mightily
impressed by the
wonderful
spirit
that prevails here among the Christian Churches. The goodwill and sheer
Christian charity
that
already exists provides a wonderful launching pad for reaching yet
greater
heights.
Pan
ddeuthum i Llandudno dair blynedd a hanner yn ôl, cefais fy nharo 'n
arw gan yr
ysbryd
rhyfeddol
sy 'n ffynnu yma ymysg yr eglwysi Cristnogol. Mae'r ewyllys da a'r
cariad
Cristnogol
sy'n
bodoli yma'n barod yn gychwyn gwych i'n galluogi i gyrraedd uchafion
hyd yn oed
mwy eang.
It
seems to me that the Cytûn Council, which meets four times a
year, is
the very heart of our work
together.
The members of this Council deserve our gratitude for their dedication
to the
cause of
Christian
unity and for the time they devote to it. They represent the Christian
communities of the
town
and the various organisations whereby the Churches reach out to others.
Teimlaf
fod Cyngor Cytûn yn cynrychioli canolbwynt ein gwaith gyda'n
gilydd. Mae
aelodau'r
Cyngor
yma'n haeddu'n diochgarwch am eu cyjlwyniad i achos undeb Cristnogol ac
am yr
amser y
meant
yn ymroddi iddo. Maent yn cynrychioli cymdeithasau Crisnogol y dref a'r
gwahanol
drefnyddiaeth
drwy'r sawl y mae'r eglwysi'n ymestyn allan i eraill.
As
the Council is the beating heart of Cytûn, the more efficient and the
more
attractive we make it,
the
more effective, I believe, Cytûn will become.
Can
bod y Cyngor yn galon Cytûn, y mwyaf effeithiol a deniadol yr ydym yn
ei wneud;
y mwyaf
effeithiol
y credaf y bydd Cytûn, yn datblygu.
We
decided at the last Council Meeting to introduce a change into our
usual
procedure. From now
on,
the meeting will begin with an explanatory input. For example, a
representative
of the Baptist
church
might explain to the rest of us why their Church insists on adult
baptism and
is not over
enthusiastic
about baptising infants.
Penderfynasom
yng nghyfarfod diwethaf y Cyngor i newid ein trefn arferol. O hyn
ymlaen, bydd
y
cyfarfod
yn cychwyn gyda chyfraniad eglurhaol. Er engrhaifft, gallai
cynrychiolydd o
Eglwys y
Beddyddwyr
egluro i 'r gweddill ohonom pam fod eu Heglwys yn mynnu ar fedydd
oedolion heb
fod
yn
orfrwdfydig ynglyn a bedyddio babanod.
The
purpose of this will be simply to inform and enlighten. There will be
no
discussion, no attempt
to
persuade or convert anyone. Just an opportunity for sharing and
learning.
Pwrpas
hyn fydd i gyfarwyddo ac i oleuo. Ni fydd unrhyw drafodaeth neu gais i
berswadio new
droi
unrhyw un. Dim ond cyfle i rannu ac i ddygu.
No
Christian tradition has a complete monopoly of Christian insight. We
can all
learn a huge
amount
from one another. It is a real pity we keep our light so much under a
bushel;
not sharing
with
one another the insights we have into the wondrous mystery of our
Faith. By
each tradition
explaining
some aspect of its own particular understanding of the mystery of
Christianity
, we will
come
to appreciate more fully where each one of us is coming from. And at
the same
time deepen
our
own understanding of our common Faith.
Nid
oes gan unrhyw draddodiad Critnogol monopoli llwyr i mewn I
ddealltwriaeth
Cistnogol.
Gallwn
oll ddysgu gymaint gan ein gilydd. Mae'n dosturi garw ein bod yn cadw
ein golau
gymaint
o
dan lestri dim yn rhannu ein dealltwriaeth o ddirgelwch rhyfeddol
einffydd.
Drwy i bod
draddodiad
egluro rhyw agwedd o'u dealltwriaeth unigol eu hunain i ddirgelwch
Cristnogol,
fe
ddown
i werthfawrogi 'n fwyfwy'r sajbwynt o ble y mae pob un ohonom yn dod.
Ac ar yr
un adeg yn
defnhau
ein dealltwriaeth ein hunain o'n Ffydd cyffredin.
As
well as this, I would like to see the Council become more and more
accessible
to the ordinary
man
or woman in the pew. I would
like it to be the means by which every single one of us can
air
views,
share ideas and possibly introduce change. For this to work, the Admin
Committee (to whom I am profoundly grateful) will need to operate as a
Steering
Committee.
Yn
ogystal a hyn, hoffwn weld y Cyngor yn dod yn fwy o fewn cyrraedd y
dyn a
dynes gyffredin yn
y
cor.
Hoffwn iddo fod y dull drwy'r hyn y gall pob un ohonom ddatgan ein barn
a
rhannu ein
syniadau
ac o bosib gyjlwyno newidiadau. Er mwyn i hyn weithio, bydd yn rhaid
i'r
Pwyllgor
Gweinyddol
(i'r sawl yr wyf yn hynod ddiolchgar) weithredu fel Pwyllgor Llywio.
A
fortnight or so before the Cytûn Council, the Steering Committee could
meet. It
would decide
whether
proposals submitted by individual parishioners should be included on
the Agenda
of the
Council.
(This is no new idea – it is normal procedure for most council
meetings, and
has been
operating
to an extent already with the Cytûn Council).
Tua
pythefnos o jlaen Cyngor Cytûn, gallai'r Cyngor Llywio gyfarfod. (Nid
yw hyn yn
syniad
Newydd
– mae'n drefn arferol i'r rhan fwyaf o gyfarfodydd cyngor). Byddai 'n
perderfynnu os
ddylai
unrhyw gynigiad gan blwyfolion unigol gael eu cynnwys yn Rhaglen y
Cyngor.
This
would have a double benefit. It would do away (except in emergencies)
with Any
Other
Business
at the end
of the Council Meeting. This slot can be a wearisome period when anyone
can
raise
anything he or she likes and take as long as he or she wants, at a time
in the
meeting when
most
people have had quite enough already.
Byddai
hyn o fudd mewn dau ffordd. Byddai'n gwneud i ffwrdd (heblaw am mewn
argyfwng)
gyda
Unrhww
Faterion Eraill ar
ddiwedd Cyfarfod y Cyngor. Gall y slot yma fod yn adeg diflas pan
all
unrhyw
un godi unrhyw beth a fynnai a chymeryd cyn hired a fynnai ar adeg yn y
cyfafrod pan
mae
'r rhan fwyaf wedi cael hen ddigon yn barod.
But
the major benefit of this procedure would be to give each and every
Christian
in Llandudno the
opportunity
to have their opinions heard, at least by the Cytûn President and the
Steering
Committee and probably by the entire Council.
Ond
y budd pennaf gyda'r dull yma o weithredu fyddai i roddi'r cyfle i bod
crision
yn Llandudno i
fynegi
ei farn, o leiaf o faen Llywydd Cytûn a'r Pwyllgor Llywio ac o bosib o
flaen y
Cyngor cyfan.
I
would ask the Council Members, particularly those who represent the
Church
Communities, to
explain
this procedure to their congregations. If our people feel that the
Council
exists for them and
is
a vehicle for sharing ideas and a means for getting things to happen,
then
Cytûn Llandudno will
have
taken a further step along that road of excellence it has been treading
for
some considerable
time.
Gofynwn
i Aelodau'r Cyngor, yn enwedig y rhai sydd yn cynrychioli Cymdeithasau
Eglwysig, i
egluro'r
dull yma o weithredu i'w cynulleidfa. Os yw'n pobl yn timlo lod y
cyngor yn
bodoli er eu
mwyn
ac yn gyfrwng i rannu syniadau ac yn lodd i gael pethau i ddigwydd, yna
bydd
Cytûn
Llandudno
wedi cymeryd cam arall ar hyd y ffordd o ragoriaeth y mae wedi bod yn
ei
droedio ers
peth
amser.
God
bless you, Duw a'ch bendithio,
Fr
Antony Jones,
(President of Cytûn/Llwydd Cytûn)